3x10? He wouldnt be worth it even if he gets 110 point seasons with 3rd liners. Thats just purely atrocious contract. I think there are questionmarks if he is even worth 10M on 8yr deal..

Somehow I doubt that he's not signing anything but a contract close to this.

Then he sits or is traded and I wouldnt even care. He either signs what Leafs are offering (10.5-11x7-8 or 8.5-9x3) or sit/would-be-traded.

He needs to can his advisors, and take his 80 plus million guaranteed and keep perfect image, and make mint in commercials, and if he gets banged up or the career doesn’t quite work out as planned, he’s got 80 million. I don’t understand these rfas, Pipe dream, perfect double dipping, take your guaranteed dough and worry about hockey, not how much u gain or lose next go round. Physical game still, so take your guarantees

I don't see this being a solution for either of them to be fair. As greedy as Marner and co. seem to be, TOR needs him in order to be successful.

Nothing is 100% in any sports.

They can win without him, and they will win without him if he doesnt want to sign normal contract like a normal player in NHL.. The narrative that "without Marner they are bad" is wrong. I dont see Matthews deal for marner or 10x3 a solution for both sides. Thats just ridiculous contract..

The whole team would need to make a major upgrade if they want to perform better without their leading scorer of last year though.

For every Hossa early in his career, there’s a hossa late in his career, you might as well get paid

They would perform very well and would be still close to 100 point team. Marner is less important than you might think. Yeah he was leading scorer and it was due to the fact that he played with Tavares whole season and both Matthews AND Tavares on PP whole year.. Bracco isnt gonna do same damage as Marner but he can manage 45-50 points on his wing as setup man. Somehow I think a group of Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Kapanen, Kerfoot, Johnsson, Hyman and Rielly, Muzzin, Barrie + young guys can manage to get into playoffs and win.. IF Marner doesnt sign a deal he sits or is traded. We can manage either option.

I envy your optimism.

You're either very smart or very naive regarding the Leafs.

We will see after the season, but I believe they can win with or without Mitch. if trade happens. there is sure gonna be someone coming back that gets this team stronger, but.. I dont have problem with seeing this leafs team without Mitch and Mitch sitting for a year. We have enough good players and talent that I think they can do pretty well.

Pp will be fine, pk will suffer, I think they will miss him, emotionally and pure excitement of playing the game, a lot of there other leaders are pretty stoic and don’t show much emotion. Interesting will be him and kadri missing and some new ingredients, I think Barrie plays a little fiery and solve marner missing on pp, but not sure on other players added to replace kadri, but we will see that’s why they play the games.

Sure, let Toronto spend millions on other contracts and then not win a cup because they couldn't figure it out.
There is no part of not signing marner that makes them a better team. Especially when you will get taken to the cleaner on a trade.



His adviser is his father so that's never going to happen. B, he will make the commercial money anyway and hockey players really don't make that much in endorsements. C. It's not hard to understand these RFA. The whole league, Owners and Players, are licking their chops at the new tv contract money coming in. No one wants to leave money on the table. How can you blame them. The league isn't talking to the players about those numbers and future revenue growth. It could be a massive bump in money. Their are talks that there are up to 3 networks willing to do deals for games in the american market. With NBC and ESPN almost assuredly playing a ton of money for rights. On the low end the TV revenue is set to double. Some are saying it could be 3-4x as much as it currently is. It could have a massive hike on the salary cap. If it's 3x and players get half of it, you are looking at the cap going up about 10 million or a little more than 12%. That doesn't include the bump they will get for the expansion team coming from seattle.
That's huge for the players, and they all want in on it. Signing a long term deal kind of screws them on that as they get out past their prime.

So what’s your thought on a possible marner ufa deal in 5 years, after a few most sports man likes, a possible conn smyth and a cup and 500 points ish

Marner should not be making anywhere over 11.5 million. Only Connor McDavid should be that high paid

Leafs will be ok without Marner. Not great but ok. If I am Dubas though it is like O'Neil said today 11x7 or 8x3, or enjoy Zurich. Secretly I hope they flip him for Panarin and dump Ceci. To prove a point.

Wouldn't it be nice to be paid like you have won Stanley cups when you haven't even won a play off series, ahhhhhh the life of young leaf superstars

Come on Paul, enough with the burners

look he has to do all that first.
Let him bet on himself. It's clear why he's not going to sign long term. Not a lot of players do. None that are going to be past their prime in 3 years.
If you are lucky, he doesn't and he slips back and you can be like, hey you weren't worth all that and be done with it.
If he does, you know he's going to walk anyway because his father will go chasing the money. He'll have to figure out what he wants at that point. Money or a team that can win.
But the odds are pretty much even on that. If he puts up 90-100 point seasons for the next 5 years you shouldn't complain anyway. Most likely he won't though. That's my opinion.
You might be trying to sign him after career highs. In some respect you might be best off letting him bet on himself.