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What would the habs need to offer to get Laine

Created by: Howyoudrouinnn
Initial Creation Date: Sep 13, 2019
Published: Sep 13 at 8:56 am
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
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WPG Needs a 2C or top 4 RD is apparently what everyone has been saying they're asking for.
Trades
MTL
  1. Laine, Patrik [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Danault, Phillip
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Who else and what else would need to be added?
MTL
    Laine Trade option 2
    WPG
    1. Petry, Jeff
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    Who else / what else would need to be added?
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    Drouin, Jonathan
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    Domi, Max
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    Gallagher, Brendan
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    Weal, Jordan
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    UFA - 2
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    Armia, Joel
    $2,600,000
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    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
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    Thompson, Nate
    $1,000,000
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    Weise, Dale
    $2,350,000
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    UFA - 1
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    Lehkonen, Artturi
    $2,400,000
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    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
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    Hudon, Charles
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    Evans, Jake
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    Alzner, Karl
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    Chiarot, Ben
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    $800,000
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    Kinkaid, Keith
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    Kulak, Brett
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    Mete, Victor
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    Sep 13 at 8:57
    #1
    KFTW
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    Danault, Brook, Suzuki/Poehling, 1st
    Sep 13 at 8:57
    #2
    Thread Starter
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    I know for a fact that an Offer Sheet is the best option to keep the team and get Laine, but since Bergevin and Cheveldayoff have a good relationship apparently, I wonder what kind of trade options would be doable around these two players
    Sep 13 at 8:58
    #3
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    Quoting: csick
    Danault, Brook, Suzuki/Poehling, 1st


    If I'm putting in Suzuki I don't want the 1st there imo
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    Sep 13 at 9:07
    #4
    Silkysmooth
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    Danualt is a 3rd line center on any other team, and petty is a borderline top 6 D-man on other teams... Besides that, they mean they want the 2nd C or top 4 D plus something else (like a prospect or a pick, he is still worth a lot!
    Sep 13 at 9:09
    #5
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    Danualt is a 3rd line center on any other team, and petty is a borderline top 6 D-man on other teams... Besides that, they mean they want the 2nd C or top 4 D plus something else (like a prospect or a pick, he is still worth a lot!


    You saying Danault is a 3rd line Center when he got Selke votes, and Petry is a top 6 D-man is proof you underrate these two highly underrated players.
    I also said in the trade comments what else would need to be added to these trades to make them realistic and fair.
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    Sep 13 at 9:11
    #6
    McFaksaGOAT
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    Danualt is a 3rd line center on any other team, and petty is a borderline top 6 D-man on other teams... Besides that, they mean they want the 2nd C or top 4 D plus something else (like a prospect or a pick, he is still worth a lot!


    That’s a bad take. Danault is one of the most underrated centres in the game. Def a 2nd line centre
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    Sep 13 at 9:13
    #7
    Go Wings Go
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    laugh laugh You can't be serious? Neither Danault or Petry get you Patrick Laine, Start with Domi or forget it.
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    Sep 13 at 9:24
    #8
    Habs1289
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    laugh laugh You can't be serious? Neither Danault or Petry get you Patrick Laine, Start with Domi or forget it.


    Domi is a better all around player than Laine right now ...so no a trade for Laine doesn’t start with domi.. a package starting with Danault or Petry can get you Laine, if you think otherwise then you have no idea what you’re talking about
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    Sep 13 at 9:28
    #9
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: habs1289
    Domi is a better all around player than Laine right now ...so no a trade for Laine doesn’t start with domi.. a package starting with Danault or Petry can get you Laine, if you think otherwise then you have no idea what you’re talking about


    No, you don't know what you are talking about man... Laine had one bad year, he is still worth A LOT. You are looking at domi and a 2nd or late round 1st for Laine rn, or at least they should be
    Sep 13 at 9:31
    #10
    Bandwagon fairweathe
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    I don’t believe danault is a real fit in wpg, to get laine, somebody legit in top 6, that still has potential to have some bigger years, ie drouin. Then potential that doesn’t need to be protected at expansion draft, ie brook, Suzuki, poehling. And a draftpick that makes sense to make it all work. Imo something along the lines of the haul that got evander Kane to Buffalo. Drouin brook suziki and a pick, would be my hope coming from a jets fan
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    Sep 13 at 9:31
    #11
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: Howyoudrouinnn
    You saying Danault is a 3rd line Center when he got Selke votes, and Petry is a top 6 D-man is proof you underrate these two highly underrated players.
    I also said in the trade comments what else would need to be added to these trades to make them realistic and fair.


    Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
    That’s a bad take. Danault is one of the most underrated centres in the game. Def a 2nd line centre


    So even if he is a borderline 2nd liner or a real 2nd liner, you are still looking for at least a prospect and a first round pick with him or petry... Laine may have had a bad year, but he is still much more valuable than that lol... Think about what the bruins gave up for Rick Nash (granted that it was a bad trade), but that's about half of what Laine is worth lol
    Sep 13 at 9:34
    #12
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: Birtle34
    I don’t believe danault is a real fit in wpg, to get laine, somebody legit in top 6, that still has potential to have some bigger years, ie drouin. Then potential that doesn’t need to be protected at expansion draft, ie brook, Suzuki, poehling. And a draftpick that makes sense to make it all work. Imo something along the lines of the haul that got evander Kane to Buffalo. Drouin brook suziki and a pick, would be my hope coming from a jets fan


    This is it... maybe take one of the prospects out, but thats what I have been saying (a full time top 6 forward (not borderline), a prospect, and a first or 2nd rounder (or 3rd if the other two are good enough) ...
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    Sep 13 at 9:35
    #13
    Habs1289
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    No, you don't know what you are talking about man... Laine had one bad year, he is still worth A LOT. You are looking at domi and a 2nd or late round 1st for Laine rn, or at least they should be


    No he is a one dimensional player he can score (which I know is big) but when you’re lazy in the defensive and neutral zone than you don’t have as much value the guy puts in minimal effort outside of the offensive zone .. sure he can score 40 a year but his lack of effort and defensive play has been the cause for just as many goals in a year.: people need to stop looking at stats and actually watch players play the game
    Sep 13 at 9:42
    #14
    Thread Starter
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    Drouin, Fleury, 1st, 2nd.

    fair?
    Sep 13 at 9:49
    #15
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    Quoting: Howyoudrouinnn
    Drouin, Fleury, 1st, 2nd.

    fair?


    Danault and Drouin together? Les Quebecquois would start a riot but it could make sense...
    Sep 13 at 9:50
    #16
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    Quoting: bigguycom
    Danault and Drouin together? Les Quebecquois would start a riot but it could make sense...


    I meant Drouin Fleury and two picks lol.
    Sep 13 at 9:51
    #17
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    Quoting: Howyoudrouinnn
    I meant Drouin Fleury and two picks lol.


    I know. I was just offering up that option to see your thoughts
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    Sep 13 at 9:52
    #18
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    Quoting: bigguycom
    I know. I was just offering up that option to see your thoughts


    Danault and Drouin ruin too much of MTL's top 6 imo. I'd be content with losing one, a top prospect not named Suzuki or Poehling (ideally) and a few picks
    Sep 13 at 10:06
    #19
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: habs1289
    No he is a one dimensional player he can score (which I know is big) but when you’re lazy in the defensive and neutral zone than you don’t have as much value the guy puts in minimal effort outside of the offensive zone .. sure he can score 40 a year but his lack of effort and defensive play has been the cause for just as many goals in a year.: people need to stop looking at stats and actually watch players play the game


    Lol don't worry bud, I watch him play... He hit a sophomore slump (as many player do) and he was VERY lazy! But that doesn't drop his value from "former second overall pick" to "lazy bust" worth a boarderline 2nd to 3rd line center lol ... I know what im talking about lol don't worry. I have no reason to overrate Laine, just trying to be more realistic than this post is
    Sep 13 at 10:08
    #20
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    Quoting: bsilk18
    Lol don't worry bud, I watch him play... He hit a sophomore slump (as many player do) and he was VERY lazy! But that doesn't drop his value from "former second overall pick" to "lazy bust" worth a boarderline 2nd to 3rd line center lol ... I know what im talking about lol don't worry. I have no reason to overrate Laine, just trying to be more realistic than this post is


    Danault, Fleury, 1st, 2nd, is more than fair value for Laine.
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    Sep 13 at 10:09
    #21
    DomCholette
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    With Petry... simply KK
    Sep 13 at 10:09
    #22
    Silkysmooth
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    Put it like this, you saying this is like me saying Heinen and a 2nd for Laine is a good trade... Which I would love as a bruins fan! But it isn't realistic...
    Sep 13 at 10:10
    #23
    Silkysmooth
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    Quoting: Howyoudrouinnn
    Danault, Fleury, 1st, 2nd, is more than fair value for Laine.


    Beautiful! Thats what im saying! Player (2nd to 3rd line), Prospect (Not top tier, but good), Pick (first or second or both depending on the other two assets)...
    Sep 13 at 10:16
    #24
    Bandwagon fairweathe
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    Quoting: Howyoudrouinnn
    Danault, Fleury, 1st, 2nd, is more than fair value for Laine.


    Are we talking fair, or something Winnipeg might actually accept, Chevy job and legacy on the line if he chiarellis it like seguin to Dallas
    Sep 13 at 10:16
    #25
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    Quoting: Birtle34
    Are we talking fair, or something Winnipeg might actually accept, Chevy job and legacy on the line if he chiarellis it like seguin to Dallas


    I think it's fair and they'd consider it. probably wont accept tho
     
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