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Created by: Johnjohn

Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2019

Published: Sep. 15, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Point, Brayden		3	$7,000,000

Buyouts

Matthew Carle: $1,833,333
Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Buried

Mike Condon: $1,325,000 ($2,400,000)
Louis Domingue: $75,000 ($1,150,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$80,023,331	$0	$1,362,500	$1,476,669

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Point, Brayden $7,000,000$7,000,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 8
Killorn, Alex $4,450,000$4,450,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4	Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 5	Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3
Maroon, Patrick $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Paquette, Cédric $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Gourde, Yanni $5,166,666$5,166,666 C, LW, RW NTC UFA - 6
Joseph, Mathieu $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) C, LW UFA - 1
Martel, Danick $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Shattenkirk, Kevin $1,750,000$1,750,000 RD NTC UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 7	Rutta, Jan $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	McElhinney, Curtis $1,300,000$1,300,000 G UFA - 2
Coburn, Braydon $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD NTC UFA - 2	Schenn, Luke $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
Sergachev, Mikhail $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Witkowski, Luke $700,000$700,000 RW, RD UFA - 2
	Cernak, Erik $697,500$697,500 ($147,500$148K) RD UFA - 1

Sep. 23, 2019 at 4:41 p.m.

#26

Johnjohn

Thread Starter

johnjohn

Joined: Feb. 2019

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Quoting: Johnjohn

3 years at 7.5 with 3rd year at 10 for qualifying offer
5 or 6 years at a max of 9 million
No 4 year deals because I explained before nobody will do that anymore and 7 or 8 is stupid unless a huge overpayment which Tampa won’t do

He even got less on a 3 year deal with a 9 million dollar qualifying offer and 6.75
There is 3 or 4 contributors to this site that post constantly about stuff they have no clue about
We have one right here on this post
Wonder who?

Sep. 23, 2019 at 4:45 p.m.

#27

Johnjohn

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johnjohn

Joined: Feb. 2019

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Quoting: pharrow

the arrogance here is just oozing
I hope TB knows how to handle it's players sitting out

Any comments now Pharrow....don’t think so
Maybe Random 2152 can explain how contacts work to you lol

Sep. 23, 2019 at 7:50 p.m.

#28

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

Joined: Jun. 2018

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Quoting: CaptainFlynnt

It is though. I straight up said TB has a history of giving out 3 year bridge contract to guys coming off of ELC's.

The point is that just because Toronto does things there way does not mean another team has to follow suit. So far Marner and Matthew's are the only RFA's who got both the term and AAV they wanted. No other team in the league is operating that way, you want less term? Ok we are lowering your AAV. You want a high AAV? Ok but we are signing you to 8 years so it is worth the investment.

Toronto failed to do that.

You were saying that Toronto contract situation was because of Matthews as a comparable. I responded that team only comparables are not how contracts work and you come back with an entirely new argument as if it was the same one you were making all along.
My response is still accurate. Team only comparables do not exist. What happened here is an anchoring failure by points agent (at least from what we know from public info) and a player who wanted to play more than get a fair contract.

And 6 years is term, wtf are you talking about? The **** outa here with this Toronto failed to get term ****.

Sep. 23, 2019 at 7:53 p.m.

#29

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

Joined: Jun. 2018

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Quoting: Johnjohn

Any comments now Pharrow....don’t think so
Maybe Random 2152 can explain how contacts work to you lol

Boy was @pharrow right about you. An arrogant moron who thinks he is the **** and feels the need to Lord over the rest of us. Get over yourself.

Sep. 23, 2019 at 9:16 p.m.

#30

Johnjohn

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johnjohn

Joined: Feb. 2019

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Again you no nothing about hockey. Stick to broom ball lol

Sep. 23, 2019 at 11:41 p.m.

#31

CaptainFlynnt

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Joined: Apr. 2016

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Quoting: Random2152

I elaborated on my first post. I said Marner gets that much because his team paid that much to Matthew's. I said Marner would not get that in TB.

You said that isn't how contracts work.

I elaborated: teams have different ways of doing things. Toronto gives out stupid contracts, TB gives out 3 year prove it bridge deals.

6 years is 2 less than it should have been for Marner. 5 years is 3 less than it should have been for Matthews.

In 3 years Point is gonna be an RFA and ask for what? $11M? In 5 years what is Matthews going to ask for? I bet he will want a lot more than $11.6M. I bet he doesn't stay in Toronto either.

Sep. 24, 2019 at 6:43 a.m.

#32

Random2152

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Quoting: CaptainFlynnt

Were just gonna have to agree to disagree here m8. I don't think this convo is going anywhere lol.

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