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If we want Laine lets make trade that makes sense

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Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 19, 2019
Published: Sep. 19, 2019
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Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:41 p.m.
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A laine trade isn’t happening at this point. That window closed in my opinion
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.
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i'd be surprised if it did
i'd do it because we can always pay for him as a UFA in 2022

i think picks will be a priority
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.
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If the Jets are trading him it's for D help.
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Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.
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Petry, Tatar and a 1st. For kulikov and Laine.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Petry, Tatar and a 1st. For kulikov and Laine.


Ooof. There’s no way we trade him for those kind of offers.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:48 p.m.
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Ooof. There’s no way we trade him for those kind of offers.


When the Habs are seriously ready to contend neither of these players will be on the team.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
When the Habs are seriously ready to contend neither of these players will be on the team.


No I mean laine. His window for being traded is shut in my opinion. He will return to the jets.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Petry, Tatar and a 1st. For kulikov and Laine.


You do know Laine is 21.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.
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No I mean laine. His window for being traded is shut in my opinion. He will return to the jets.


His game is very incomplete even for his age. His trade window closes on Dec 1st 5pm est... not a second before. I don’t think selling when his value is this low is a smart move either. But letting him sit may not be the greatest option.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:54 p.m.
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You do know Laine is 21.

Yes I do, is there something more to add to that?
Sep. 19, 2019 at 9:55 p.m.
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Quoting: bunzy1034
No I mean laine. His window for being traded is shut in my opinion. He will return to the jets.


What makes you say that?
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Sep. 19, 2019 at 10:01 p.m.
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wtf montreal wouldn’t do that
Sep. 19, 2019 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
What makes you say that?


Because especially if buff retires, we will have a **** load of cap, more than enough for laine and Connor. Let laine bouce back and not lose him in a trade that will get Chevy fired when he becomes a 50 goal scorer.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.
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Because especially if buff retires, we will have a **** load of cap, more than enough for laine and Connor. Let laine bouce back and not lose him in a trade that will get Chevy fired when he becomes a 50 goal scorer.


I see, guess we'll see how the Jets soap opera plays out.. Lol
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Sep. 19, 2019 at 10:10 p.m.
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Yes I do, is there something more to add to that?


Would you one of the best scorers in the league who is only 21 for a 31yr old defenseman and 28 yr old forward. I like Tatar since earning a permanent spot in the NHL he has missed 20 goals once in his first season and he had 19 goals. But it isn't very fair.
Sep. 19, 2019 at 10:34 p.m.
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Dear god is Laine underappreciated.

He is 4th all time in goals under 20
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Sep. 20, 2019 at 9:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Petry, Tatar and a 1st. For kulikov and Laine.


Yeah no, What makes you think that Petry and his 15 team no trade limit would waive for Winnipeg?
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Sep. 20, 2019 at 9:24 a.m.
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Those pieces are nowhere even close enough for Patrik Laine, And seeing that Big Buff is probably retiring. Laine is no longer going anywhere.
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Sep. 20, 2019 at 11:41 a.m.
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Yeah no, What makes you think that Petry and his 15 team no trade limit would waive for Winnipeg?


Why not? It’s not like he playing for Tampa. I have found that most players will waive their NTC’s their could be other options than that Petry. I just think he would fit the best. Weber could work too as a good replacement for Buf...
Sep. 20, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.
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Dear god is Laine underappreciated.

He is 4th all time in goals under 20


Quoting: BCAPP
Dear god is Laine underappreciated.

He is 4th all time in goals under 20


That is such a useless stat. Laine has a good birthdate... therefore he’s better.... he sits so far down the list in goals for rookie plus sophomore goals it’s not even funny.
Sep. 20, 2019 at 11:51 a.m.
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Would you one of the best scorers in the league who is only 21 for a 31yr old defenseman and 28 yr old forward. I like Tatar since earning a permanent spot in the NHL he has missed 20 goals once in his first season and he had 19 goals. But it isn't very fair.


Think you totally missed the unprotected 1st. I will be honest, I’m not very high on Laine. I was his first season. But after that his lack of development to me is worrisome. He reminds me of kovalev but with less tools. He is 21 and I get that but there are plenty of 21 year olds in the game that have developed a much more rounded game and seem to play like they give a ****.

Laine has a top 5 shot release in the game right now. He is average in some departments and far below in others.

If you think he can round his game out a bit than you would not like this trade.
Sep. 20, 2019 at 12:10 p.m.
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That is such a useless stat. Laine has a good birthdate... therefore he’s better.... he sits so far down the list in goals for rookie plus sophomore goals it’s not even funny.


It's not useless. It is limited and cause a lot haven't had the opportunity. But it is also a lot easier to play at 23 then 19. The vast vast vast majority of players aren't ready for the NHL at 18 and 19. He was like 4th in the league in goals through those age. That's incredible.
Sep. 20, 2019 at 1:01 p.m.
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It's not useless. It is limited and cause a lot haven't had the opportunity. But it is also a lot easier to play at 23 then 19. The vast vast vast majority of players aren't ready for the NHL at 18 and 19. He was like 4th in the league in goals through those age. That's incredible.


I’m not talking about 23... I’m talking about 20... players like Matthews, who had one season in his teenage years. Laine’s birthday being in April means he gets two full seasons as a teenager.

Again I don’t think a few months matters a whole lot in practice, but the theory of this stat dismissed it. The evidence is in the way he drops off when compared to players 18-20 through 2 seasons.
Sep. 20, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
That is such a useless stat. Laine has a good birthdate... therefore he’s better.... he sits so far down the list in goals for rookie plus sophomore goals it’s not even funny.


He is 5th in goals since coming in to the league and that's not a useless stat.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?aggregate=1&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20162017&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=goals,gte,80&sort=goals

Quoting: Jamiepo
Think you totally missed the unprotected 1st. I will be honest, I’m not very high on Laine. I was his first season. But after that his lack of development to me is worrisome. He reminds me of kovalev but with less tools. He is 21 and I get that but there are plenty of 21 year olds in the game that have developed a much more rounded game and seem to play like they give a ****.

Laine has a top 5 shot release in the game right now. He is average in some departments and far below in others.

If you think he can round his game out a bit than you would not like this trade.


No I saw the 1st and I still don't think its enough.

Ok but if you are trading for Laine its for the goals he will score and nothing else.

The point I was trying to make about him being 21 is Laine is 6 years younger than Gallagher and 5 years younger than Reilly. So hypothetically assuming they all retire at the same age Laine will be around 6yrs longer than Gallagher and 5yrs longer than Reilly.
Sep. 20, 2019 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
He is 5th in goals since coming in to the league and that's not a useless stat.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?aggregate=1&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20162017&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=goals,gte,80&sort=goals



No I saw the 1st and I still don't think its enough.

Ok but if you are trading for Laine its for the goals he will score and nothing else.

The point I was trying to make about him being 21 is Laine is 6 years younger than Gallagher and 5 years younger than Reilly. So hypothetically assuming they all retire at the same age Laine will be around 6yrs longer than Gallagher and 5yrs longer than Reilly.


My trade was different than the one posted. A trade for Laine with no contract is worth 4 years. As I already mentioned earlier trading him when his stock is so low is probably not a great idea.
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