Edited Sep. 23, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.
Quoting: Eli
So you're making two good arguments here. I'm just not sure you agree with yourself.
You're making a strong case that the Lightning are in cap trouble and need to shed overpriced guys for inexpensive, effective guys. Then you're also making an argument that you'll never trade your overpriced guys without massive overpayments because everybody totally wants them.
I'm just a Caps fan who thinks the first argument is stronger than the second, and noticed that the Jackets are a team that lost big in UFA, reportedly talked with Marner about a lowball offer sheet, and might make some kind of a piddling offer to add another overrated, overpaid star in time for the season.
We are not in cap trouble for this year... it's all about 2020/2021 season or later... when it's a strong possibility. But until then lots of trades can happen...
The POINT is: Our latest young RFA worth "10 million $ or more" for any team in the league = we will not trade him, unless we get an insane offer, which we couldn't resist. But in the
i have never seen an insane offer in last few years since im following all kinds of trades closely...
These dream scenarios for getting elite players for peanuts sounds good, but they are just not happening, unless player states publicly = he has problems with the coach,management, or players(Kessel,Erik Karlsson vs Hoffman, Risto, Pulju, Zaitsev etc...)
Your offer for Point is just straight horrible, no GM in the league would accept that for the reasons i already stated. Savard = mediocre value, rest = almost no value.We want to win the cup, we need that X-Factor player... that's not Texier or Bjorkstrand... You think they're effective for Ottawa. They are not effective for us: We have 10 of those Bjorkstrand level of guys here. For less money. If we would trade for Björkstrand, he would be on the trade block immediately... It's simple as that, we can't afford another multi millon contract.
I try to illustrate for you with your team:
gets:
Ovechkin
gets:
Coburn
Killorn
1st round pick
2nd round pick
2nd round pick
5th round pick
6th round pick
So, do we have a trade here? You get here efffective guys + lots of picks. Coburn just had a really solid season = super effective for that caphit for 2 more years.
If you're the Washington GM. Do you accept this?
Or just say: No thanks.
And again Domingue = good goalie = we never pay draft picks to trade him, i think you did a mistake there, and it's still not edited, so i'm still not sure what you are trying to achieve with that trade.
Aynways, it doesn't matter what fan you are, if you think top 5 backup goalie last year(he just had his best season ever): we pay draft pick to get rid of him...
Domingue would have been our backup goalie this year, but since he would demand more money next year, we can't keep him. I would guess he wants 2 mill $ or more...
But McElhinney as UFA!!! for some reason only wanted 1.3 mill $ contract, so that's amazing deal for the next 2 years, if he has even only a mediocre season(over .900 SV%, under 2.75 GAA).
When you evaluate goalies in general, you need to evaluate them both at the same time:
9.5+1.3 = 10.8 mill $= best goalie tandem in the league = good value.
But let's say Domingue wants 2.5 mill $ from 2020/2021:
9.5 + 2.5 = 12 mill $ = still top 5 goalie tandem in the league = still good value but worse then the other scenario
So it's just best to trade Domingue at the max value.
Plot twist comes here: It looks like noone needs a backup goalie so far in the whole league, which is super surprising.
For example
goalies or even
,
but i could probably list half the league, which have a worse goalie than Domingue.
I watched Domingue last year so many times, and he just delivered at almost!!! every important moment. He contributed a lot to our "BEST EVER REGULAR SEASON BY ANY TEAM IN THE HISTORY IN THE NHL"
Clutch saves = sometimes undervalued it looks like. If 10-20 clutch save nets you 10+ points, it's better than for example 0.05 SV% or 0.20 goals over 30 games... oh yeah.. and he is still young... we didn't care about defense last year, our team stretegy was : offense at all costs... on a more defensive minded team... Domingue could be even better...
But injuries will happen, and other teams most likely will pay for him then. I'm still positive about that. Until then, i guess he just stays as the 3rd goalie...
TLDR:
Domingue:We are under the cap = we don't pay for unnecesary contracts to get rid of ...not even 7th round... he just stays buried the whole year in that worst case scenario then...(75k caphit = no big deal)
Point:wants to stay and we want to keep him. No trade possible, unless your offer value = off the charts