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Saw This On Twitter Over The Weekend

Created by: vic997
Initial Creation Date: Sep 23, 2019
Published: Sep 23, 2019 at 9:12 am
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
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Not realistic. But I'm curious how far off the value is for either side.
Imo Buffalo is way overpaying but they could make the sacrifices at D considering how much depth they have.

Next year: (assuming 84 mil cap) - 33.8 mil in cap space
RFAs:
Sam Reinhart (long term 7-8 mil?)
Evan Rodrigues
Casey Mittelstadt (bridge)
Victor Olofsson (bridge)
Brandon Montour (4-5 years, under 5.5 mil AAV?)
Linus Ullmark
Tage Thompson

UFAs:
Jimmy Vesey
Zemgus Girgensons
Johan Larsson
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Laine, Patrik3$7,500,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Laine, Patrik [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Bogosian, Zach ($2,500,000 retained)
  3. Sheary, Conor
  4. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
  • Ville Leino: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Zach Bogosian: $2,500,000 (48.61%)
Buried
  • Matt Hunwick: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,634,167$0$4,257,500$3,865,833
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
Laine, Patrik
$7,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$3,650,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Vesey, Jimmy
$2,275,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Rodrigues, Evan
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Larsson, Johan
$1,550,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,325,000
G
RFA - 1
BUF
Scandella, Marco
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Nelson, Casey
$812,500
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Sobotka, Vladimír
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Wilson, Scott
$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Sep 23, 2019 at 9:13
#1
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Massive overpay by Buffalo, not looking for Kessel to Toronto 2.0
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Sep 23, 2019 at 9:14
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
Massive overpay by Buffalo, not looking for Kessel to Toronto 2.0


I agree. But I think this goes to show that even without Risto and Bogosian, Buffalo has a ton of depth on D
Sep 23, 2019 at 9:15
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Quoting: vic997
I agree. But I think this goes to show that even without Risto and Bogosian, Buffalo has a ton of depth on D


Yes but I think getting rid of Ristolainen significantly reduces the amount of high end skill on the backend and would much prefer to keep him
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Sep 23, 2019 at 9:17
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No one gets that Laine isn’t gonna get traded unless the package coming back is ridiculous and makes wpg says yes. You’re gonna have to pay more than that imo.
Sep 23, 2019 at 9:18
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
Yes but I think getting rid of Ristolainen significantly reduces the amount of high end skill on the backend and would much prefer to keep him


I think Dahlin is up for a huge year and taking into account that he's going to get better with more experience, the loss of Risto could be somewhat offsetted.
I'm really high on Miller, I think Buffalo stole him considering he can play top-4 and put up Risto like stats.
Sep 23, 2019 at 9:20
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Quoting: vic997
I think Dahlin is up for a huge year and taking into account that he's going to get better with more experience, the loss of Risto could be somewhat offsetted.
I'm really high on Miller, I think Buffalo stole him considering he can play top-4 and put up Risto like stats.


I also like Miller a lot but he is not a consistant 40 point defenseman who can play top pair minutes
Sep 23, 2019 at 9:21
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Quoting: tsyls
No one gets that Laine isn’t gonna get traded unless the package coming back is ridiculous and makes wpg says yes. You’re gonna have to pay more than that imo.


Honestly yes. They aren't pressed to move him tbh.
It all depends on how they want to fill the holes on their blueline.
I don't think they can contend with the current blueline so whoever is overpaying in D men would make Winnipeg take a serious look
Sep 23, 2019 at 9:23
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
I also like Miller a lot but he is not a consistant 40 point defenseman who can play top pair minutes


I also have no idea what Chicago was thinking moving Jokiharju.
He was great in his first season, I can only imagine how well he's gonna do in the near future.
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Sep 23, 2019 at 9:30
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I think Sabres should stay away from all these high priced forwards. Look at the team next year with their RFA...seems like cap trouble. I don't know if Laine puts the Sabres in the playoffs in 2020 and 21 when those two first rounders go to Jets. Laine just might be a Sabre for four years and you're giving up Risto and two good futures.
If I'm the Jets, I take Risto for three years and those two likely lottery picks.
Sep 23, 2019 at 9:33
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Quoting: palhal
I think Sabres should stay away from all these high priced forwards. Look at the team next year with their RFA...seems like cap trouble. I don't know if Laine puts the Sabres in the playoffs in 2020 and 21 when those two first rounders go to Jets. Laine just might be a Sabre for four years and you're giving up Risto and two good futures.
If I'm the Jets, I take Risto for three years and those two likely lottery picks.


They aren't doing too bad on cap space. around 33ish mil next season.
The problem would be after that year when they might need to dump Okposo to extend Dahlin 8 years.
 
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