Forums/Armchair-GM

Remember when Leafs fans riticuled me for saying Marner wont make under 10M

Created by: Howyoudrouinnn
Initial Creation Date: Sep 23, 2019
Published: Sep 23, 2019 at 4:56 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/267861&post_id=1095606

Im just sayin
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$95,965,199$0$0-$14,465,199
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Shore, Nick
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Agostino, Kenny
$737,500
LW
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Schmaltz, Jordan
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Harpur, Ben
$725,000
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Sep 23, 2019 at 4:58
#1
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 5,539
Likes: 1,394
anyone with more than 1 brain cell said that he will sign for more than 10 lol. you were right though.
Sep 23, 2019 at 4:58
#2
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 431
Likes: 154
Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
anyone with more than 1 brain cell said that he will sign for more than 10 lol. you were right though.


It was just funny how so many people were like "ok paul" or "you dont know how the negotiations are going"
CBJ4CUP and Price_is_the_goat liked this.
Sep 23, 2019 at 4:59
#3
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 666
Likes: 155
Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
anyone with more than 1 brain cell said that he will sign for more than 10 lol. you were right though.


I dont think anyone believed marner was worth more than 10... it was more just reading the situation and looking at the matthews and nylander contracts and realizing that marner would get what he wants
Sep 23, 2019 at 4:59
#4
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 431
Likes: 154
Quoting: CBJ4CUP
I dont think anyone believed marner was worth more than 10... it was more just reading the situation and looking at the matthews and nylander contracts and realizing that marner would get what he wants


exactly.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:00
#5
Caught in an enigma
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 2,015
Likes: 891
oof
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:03
#6
johnjohn
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 173
Likes: 32
I an name 3 guys who post constantly on here that made tons of comments about this . Everyone knows who they are
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:04
#7
Habs
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 2,224
Likes: 383
Quoting: CBJ4CUP
I dont think anyone believed marner was worth more than 10... it was more just reading the situation and looking at the matthews and nylander contracts and realizing that marner would get what he wants


Bang on. It was hard explaining this to leafs fans. But those contract forced them into this situation with Marner.

It drove me crazy how quick they were to turn on him when he was holding out. It's not his fault the GM gifted crazy contracts to his teammates. He deserved to be paid accordingly.

If Marner signed his contract before Matthew's and Matthew's was the last one who had to hold out it would have been the other way around.
Johnjohn and CBJ4CUP liked this.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:04
#8
johnjohn
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 173
Likes: 32
2 of these guys are in hiding now but the other is still spewing his knowledge lol
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:05
#9
get off my lawn...
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 12,483
Likes: 6,332
To be honest I never saw that agm. I probably would have said it was close on a 6 year deal. I did go through the comments quickly and only saw one leafs fan say he would sign under 10m.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:05
#10
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 5,539
Likes: 1,394
Quoting: CBJ4CUP
I dont think anyone believed marner was worth more than 10... it was more just reading the situation and looking at the matthews and nylander contracts and realizing that marner would get what he wants


yeah i agree. thats why i said what he'd sign for, not what he's actually worth.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:06
#11
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 5,539
Likes: 1,394
Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
Bang on. It was hard explaining this to leafs fans. But those contract forced them into this situation with Marner.

It drove me crazy how quick they were to turn on him when he was holding out. It's not his fault the GM gifted crazy contracts to his teammates. He deserved to be paid accordingly.

If Marner signed his contract before Matthew's and Matthew's was the last one who had to hold out it would have been the other way around.


nah i dont think thye would have **** on matthews. just go on twitter, and every time matthews scores a goal, they say he's underpaid :/
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:07
#12
rangersandislesfan
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 27,512
Likes: 3,189
Why are we still talking about Marner?
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:07
#13
get off my lawn...
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 12,483
Likes: 6,332
Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
Bang on. It was hard explaining this to leafs fans. But those contract forced them into this situation with Marner.

It drove me crazy how quick they were to turn on him when he was holding out. It's not his fault the GM gifted crazy contracts to his teammates. He deserved to be paid accordingly.

If Marner signed his contract before Matthew's and Matthew's was the last one who had to hold out it would have been the other way around.

I like the other two contracts. Marner is about 1m too high. So three rfa’s 1m too much... meh not bad. They are all signed and in camp so I’m just excited about this season.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:12
#14
johnjohn
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 173
Likes: 32
Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why are we still talking about Marner?


It is not just Marner. When I said point would get 7.5 million for 3 years the same guys made comments on my total lack of a clue
People just getting tired of these guys and calling them out
CBJ4CUP liked this.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:17
#15
johnjohn
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 173
Likes: 32
Quoting: Jamiepo
I like the other two contracts. Marner is about 1m too high. So three rfa’s 1m too much... meh not bad. They are all signed and in camp so I’m just excited about this season.

My opinion is Marner 2 million Mathews 1.5 million and neutral on nylander. 3.5 million would have been enough to maybe get Gardner or another asset
Still they look good for the season but ain’t getting by Tampa or even Boston . Just my opinion
CBJ4CUP liked this.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:29
#16
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 5,539
Likes: 1,394
Quoting: Johnjohn
My opinion is Marner 2 million Mathews 1.5 million and neutral on nylander. 3.5 million would have been enough to maybe get Gardner or another asset
Still they look good for the season but ain’t getting by Tampa or even Boston . Just my opinion


its an overpay right now, but when the cap goes up, it'll be fine. but they're gonna get fuxked when rielly and andersen have to sign.
Sep 23, 2019 at 5:41
#17
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 31,669
Likes: 8,041
I think many fans said said, quite accurately that the Leafs didn't HAVE to pay Marner over 10m. The fact that the Leafs did, that's their folly. Let's imagine the Leafs hadn't signed a contract yet, what were Marner's options?
Trickster liked this.
Sep 23, 2019 at 6:19
#18
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,132
Likes: 1,540
Quoting: Johnjohn
I an name 3 guys who post constantly on here that made tons of comments about this . Everyone knows who they are


Well, dont be coy JohnJohn. Name names if you're calling someone out.
Sep 23, 2019 at 6:54
#19
johnjohn
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 173
Likes: 32
Naw . If you don’t no by now then you will never no.
Sep 23, 2019 at 6:59
#20
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,132
Likes: 1,540
Quoting: Johnjohn
Naw . If you don’t no by now then you will never no.


Lol. I'm not sure if I know what you mean, lil John
Sep 23, 2019 at 7:00
#21
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 14,985
Likes: 4,631
Quoting: CBJ4CUP
I dont think anyone believed marner was worth more than 10... it was more just reading the situation and looking at the matthews and nylander contracts and realizing that marner would get what he wants


Marner's dad and agent and the whole TO media circus had a lot to do with the inflated price too. It was such a distraction and I am not sure it could have been done any differently.

1) Nylander lost, he wanted 8.5 for 8 years and got 6.9x6 that is a pretty big drop.

2) Matthews was going to get more than 12.5 for 8 and the two sides settled on a term and hit they could both live with. I would have thought 11.6 or whatever he got should have been at least 6 but it's not a problem. Matthews is a star he'll earn it.

3) with Marner I think Dubas knew it was going to be 10+ or trade him and that may have not helped the team win so he did have to bend too far on that one. I'm not really bothered by it but I thought that hit would be on 7 years not 6. For 6 I figured it'd be 10.
Sep 23, 2019 at 10:40
#22
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 666
Likes: 155
Quoting: LoganOllivier
Marner's dad and agent and the whole TO media circus had a lot to do with the inflated price too. It was such a distraction and I am not sure it could have been done any differently.

1) Nylander lost, he wanted 8.5 for 8 years and got 6.9x6 that is a pretty big drop.

2) Matthews was going to get more than 12.5 for 8 and the two sides settled on a term and hit they could both live with. I would have thought 11.6 or whatever he got should have been at least 6 but it's not a problem. Matthews is a star he'll earn it.

3) with Marner I think Dubas knew it was going to be 10+ or trade him and that may have not helped the team win so he did have to bend too far on that one. I'm not really bothered by it but I thought that hit would be on 7 years not 6. For 6 I figured it'd be 10.


Yes the media circus actually helped the leafs.. it forced Marner to budge and sign.. He said it himself

1) I wouldnt say 1.5mil is a big drop considering he would have 2 years longer on his term... infact it might have helped the leafs longterm if he was on a 8 year deal at 8.5 if he becomes the player you speak so highly of. he also didnt lose considering direct comparables such as Teravianan signed for 5.4 mil for 6 years compared to nylander 6.9mil for 6 years, and I dont think its wrong to say i would rather have Temu over nylander consdering the guy just put up 76 points. And Konecy signed for 5.5x6 years(where he has potential to be a 70 point getter)

2) Gotta stop saying matthews is a star so he deserved it.. No other of these team stars are getting the 5 year deals that matthews got especially at that money. Matthews got money and term. Extremely player friendly contract.

3) And why did it have to be 10+? because of the other stars. no other RFA is getting that kinda money. Kinda funny how you were the biggest and loudest one to say marner and his team had no leverage yet got the best deal outta any rfa so far...
Sep 23, 2019 at 10:43
#23
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 666
Likes: 155
Quoting: Johnjohn
Naw . If you don’t no by now then you will never no.


DW one came outta the water he cant help to fight his case even though hes been proven wrong multiple times... ^
Sep 23, 2019 at 10:43
#24
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 666
Likes: 155
Quoting: palhal
I think many fans said said, quite accurately that the Leafs didn't HAVE to pay Marner over 10m. The fact that the Leafs did, that's their folly. Let's imagine the Leafs hadn't signed a contract yet, what were Marner's options?


What were the leafs options??? They cant have one of their top player out of the lineup for a contending year
Sep 23, 2019 at 10:58
#25
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 14,985
Likes: 4,631
Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Yes the media circus actually helped the leafs.. it forced Marner to budge and sign.. He said it himself

1) I wouldnt say 1.5mil is a big drop considering he would have 2 years longer on his term... infact it might have helped the leafs longterm if he was on a 8 year deal at 8.5 if he becomes the player you speak so highly of. he also didnt lose considering direct comparables such as Teravianan signed for 5.4 mil for 6 years compared to nylander 6.9mil for 6 years, and I dont think its wrong to say i would rather have Temu over nylander consdering the guy just put up 76 points. And Konecy signed for 5.5x6 years(where he has potential to be a 70 point getter)

2) Gotta stop saying matthews is a star so he deserved it.. No other of these team stars are getting the 5 year deals that matthews got especially at that money. Matthews got money and term. Extremely player friendly contract.

3) And why did it have to be 10+? because of the other stars. no other RFA is getting that kinda money. Kinda funny how you were the biggest and loudest one to say marner and his team had no leverage yet got the best deal outta any rfa so far...


Just watch Nylander this year.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Remove Option
Submit Poll