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How to keep Alex

Created by: gregb569
Initial Creation Date: Sep 24, 2019
Published: Sep 24 at 2:35 pm
Team: 2019-20 St. Louis Blues
Team Explanation
Just a shade over 24M to sign;
UFA - Schenn & Pietrangelo (Bouwmeester if they decide too)
RFA - Rabbri, Blais, Dunn and Husso

Projections:
Pietrangelo (say he gets EK/Doughty money) - 11.5M
Schenn - I'd say he falls around O'Reilly 7.5M or under
*don't resign Bouwmeester*

$ Left for RFA - 5M
Dunn - Girard contract of 5M?
Blais, Husso and Fabbri IMO will all probably accept their QO's or get 1-2 years less than 1.5M each..

So it'll be extremely tight and not doable at all unless they trade Allen+Perron like in this example or a higher cap hit ie Bozak/Steen but I believe the more likely to waive NTC is Perron.

Also, I think i'm highballing both Schenn and Pietrangelo + not accounting for cap increase of roughly 2% - give us 83M cap space (1.5M more) likely enables them to sign another 1-2 or all of their RFA's
*can also deal Bortuzzo to clear roughly 1.5M cap if need be but I like him a lot*
Trades
STL
    ANA
    1. Allen, Jake
    Additional Details:
    Anyone for picks
    STL
    1. Weise, Dale
    2. 2020 3rd round pick (MTL)
    3. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
    Additional Details:
    Weise 1 yr cap hit use as depth F or minors
    couldn't decide on 3rd/4th coming back - LMK what you think
    MTL
    1. Perron, David
    Additional Details:
    Perron waives NTC to play for hometown team
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    STL
    STL
    STL
    MTL
    STL
    MTL
    STL
    CAR
    2021
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    2022
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    STL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$75,304,594$12,928$732,500$6,195,406
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    STL
    Schwartz, Jaden
    $5,350,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    STL
    Schenn, Brayden
    $5,125,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Tarasenko, Vladimir
    $7,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    STL
    Fabbri, Robby
    $900,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    STL
    O'Reilly, Ryan
    $7,500,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    STL
    Thomas, Robert
    $894,166
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    STL
    Sanford, Zachary
    $1,500,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    STL
    Bozak, Tyler
    $5,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    STL
    Blais, Samuel
    $850,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Barbashev, Ivan
    $1,475,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    STL
    Sundqvist, Oskar
    $2,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 4
    STL
    Steen, Alexander
    $5,750,000
    LW, RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    STL
    Dunn, Vince
    $722,500
    LD
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Pietrangelo, Alex
    $6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Binnington, Jordan
    $4,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    STL
    Bouwmeester, Jay
    $3,250,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Parayko, Colton
    $5,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    STL
    Husso, Ville
    $700,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    STL
    Gunnarsson, Carl
    $1,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    STL
    Faulk, Justin
    $4,150,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    MTL
    Weise, Dale
    $2,350,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Bortuzzo, Robert
    $1,375,000
    RD
    UFA - 3

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    Sep 24 at 2:41
    #1
    Sam
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    He’s probably not gonna sign, that’s why they did this trade

    Edit: I still hate this trade and want to die
    Sep 24 at 2:47
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    change "anyone for picks" to "anyone with picks"

    probably costs a 5th to move allen for future considerations, much less surplus value
    Sep 24 at 2:55
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    gregb569
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    Quoting: grok
    change "anyone for picks" to "anyone with picks"

    probably costs a 5th to move allen for future considerations, much less surplus value


    ok
    Sep 24 at 2:57
    #4
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    gregb569
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    He’s probably not gonna sign, that’s why they did this trade

    Edit: I still hate this trade and want to die


    Idk, I can't see why he wouldn't resign.. although I am not a STL fan so I admittedly don't know a ton about the team
    Sep 24 at 3:00
    #5
    Discord COL's GM
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    I'm pretty sure they got Faulk so they can trade Pietrangelo.
    Sep 24 at 3:08
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    Who adds what?
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I'm pretty sure they got Faulk so they can stay in contention with the league's best RHD rotation behind Pietrangelo.


    ^fixed! smile
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    Sep 24 at 3:09
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    gregb569
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I'm pretty sure they got Faulk so they can trade Pietrangelo.


    I mean maybe, but that isn't even a realistic replacement in terms of skill and what value they bring to the team IMHO
    Sep 24 at 3:10
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    Quoting: Eli
    ^fixed! smile


    No because if that was true we would have gotten a LHD not a RHD who is going to be playing on the 3rd Pairing......so yeah.
    Sep 24 at 3:11
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    Quoting: gregb569
    I mean maybe, but that isn't even a realistic replacement in terms of skill and what value they bring to the team IMHO


    I would agree, but it's more that Parayko is the replacement of Pietrangelo and Faulk is replacing Parayko's position.....soooo
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    Sep 24 at 3:13
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    He’s probably not gonna sign, that’s why they did this trade

    Edit: I still hate this trade and want to die


    that's the saddest part about the trade. and honestly, even if it's plan B in case Petro doesn't take an extension, it's really bad optics to already give that money to Faulk before they've focused on the negotiation... if I was Petro's camp I'd be like "ah I guess you're planning on moving on".

    second-saddest part: I LOVE BOKK

    This was not a smart move, Doug.
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    Sep 24 at 3:14
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    According to Friedman MTL are trying to move a forward, not acquire one.
    Sep 24 at 4:15
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    Sam
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    Quoting: A_K
    that's the saddest part about the trade. and honestly, even if it's plan B in case Petro doesn't take an extension, it's really bad optics to already give that money to Faulk before they've focused on the negotiation... if I was Petro's camp I'd be like "ah I guess you're planning on moving on".

    second-saddest part: I LOVE BOKK

    This was not a smart move, Doug.


    I like Bokk a lot, but I wasn’t necessarily sold. The worst part for me is that absurd contract extension
    Sep 24 at 4:18
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    I like Bokk a lot, but I wasn’t necessarily sold. The worst part for me is that absurd contract extension


    Never been Doug's strong suit lol. Wonder if his buddy Petey Chiarelli helped him out with this one too! We'll know when we see the contract clauses.
    Sep 24 at 4:20
    #14
    Sam
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    Quoting: A_K
    Never been Doug's strong suit lol. Wonder if his buddy Petey Chiarelli helped him out with this one too! We'll know when we see the contract clauses.


    Full NTC for the first 5 years 😐
    Sep 24 at 4:22
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    Full NTC for the first 5 years 😐


    Damn Chiarelli must've settled in pretty quickly haha. I miss the quiet offseason where we didn't do anything.
    Sep 24 at 4:24
    #16
    Sam
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    Quoting: A_K
    Damn Chiarelli must've settled in pretty quickly haha. I miss the quiet offseason where we didn't do anything.


    Two years and then Faulk to Seattle would make it okay I think. At least I don’t have to watch a Edmundson be awful this season
    Sep 24 at 4:30
    #17
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    Two years and then Faulk to Seattle would make it okay I think. At least I don’t have to watch a Edmundson be awful this season


    Or if they announce a Petro extension and forecast an 85 mil cap... and yeah I had a feeling Edmundson was out after arb... didn't want it to be like this tho haha. Oh well, let's see what Faulk can do. He's been a victim of some crazy bad PDO for a ridiculously long time up until last year. Maybe he can gel with a good partner and get us back to the finals again. And if (IF!) Kostin and Kyrou become NHL regulars, losing Bokk won't hurt much.
    Sep 24 at 4:34
    #18
    Sam
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    Quoting: A_K
    Or if they announce a Petro extension and forecast an 85 mil cap... and yeah I had a feeling Edmundson was out after arb... didn't want it to be like this tho haha. Oh well, let's see what Faulk can do. He's been a victim of some crazy bad PDO for a ridiculously long time up until last year. Maybe he can gel with a good partner and get us back to the finals again. And if (IF!) Kostin and Kyrou become NHL regulars, losing Bokk won't hurt much.


    Pietrangelo for Nylanderawesome face
    Sep 24 at 4:37
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    Let'sGoBlues | WPGv4
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    Pietrangelo for Nylanderawesome face


    Now why would Doug go and do a thing like that...

    ...

    ... AND TOTALLY REDEEM HIMSELF
    Sep 24 at 4:41
    #20
    Sam
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    Quoting: A_K
    Now why would Doug go and do a thing like that...

    ...

    ... AND TOTALLY REDEEM HIMSELF


    Let’s do it
     
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