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Trades out of the Blue

Created by: Wqrrior
Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 24, 2019
Published: Sep. 24, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
2$875,000
2$765,000
1$700,000
7$6,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,142,857
1$850,000
3$2,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Fabbri, Robby [RFA Rights]
  2. Sundqvist, Oskar
  3. 2021 1st round pick (STL)
2.
OTT
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2021 5th round pick (STL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$74,333,372$306,349$425,000$9,166,628
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C, LW
UFA - 8
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$765,000$765,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Sep. 24, 2019 at 11:50 p.m.
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no from Habs
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Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:01 a.m.
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hard pass from ottawa
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:03 a.m.
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hard pass from ottawa


Are you guys high on Nilsson? I'm a Canucks fan and I never was fond of him. How much does STL need to add? My sight on this is that Anderson won't resign and thus Allen could jobshare as the veteran with Gustavson. It's not like cap is an issue, and IMO Allen is the better goalie.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:04 a.m.
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no from Habs


What if it was Tatar instead? Probably lower the pick to a 2nd.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:06 a.m.
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Are you guys high on Nilsson? I'm a Canucks fan and I never was fond of him. How much does STL need to add? My sight on this is that Anderson won't resign and thus Allen could jobshare as the veteran with Gustavson. It's not like cap is an issue, and IMO Allen is the better goalie.


i think ottawa thinks nilsson could be a pretty good starter until either gus or sogaard takes the job from him
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:09 a.m.
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i think ottawa thinks nilsson could be a pretty good starter until either gus or sogaard takes the job from him


He has his solid nights, but he must be one of the most inconsistent goalies in the league. And I support what many people refer to as the "goalie graveyard". I don't think Nilsson is the right goalie to mentor a potential star that you have in Gus, nor is he the guy to be bailing out a young defense. Allen is also inconsistent, but I'd say his peak is lower but his low is higher, so more balanced than the "heartbeat" graph of Nilsson.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:11 a.m.
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What if it was Tatar instead? Probably lower the pick to a 2nd.


The return just isn't worthwhile;
2 bottom 6 forwards and a bottom 10 pick in whatever round in 2021 doesn't incite to move a top 6 forward
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Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:13 a.m.
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The return just isn't worthwhile;
2 bottom 6 forwards and a bottom 10 pick in whatever round in 2021 doesn't incite to move a top 6 forward


I guess people are losing faith in Fabbri. Perhaps I will make this trade if he shows stints of his value while not injured and given a chance.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:16 a.m.
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make the 1st in 2020 the draft is in MTL so fans will like the idea of 2 firsts

not to high on injury prone Fabbri , i mean he has upside as he's very responsible with the puck but that's 2 more bottom 6 forwards when we're already having issues finding room for KK, Poehling and Suzuki to fit in there . you're taking a top 6 player and giving us more bottom 6 pieces .

i like Sundqvist and the 1st but we'd need Kyrou to make it work .
STL is the reigning champ so adding a player who has 50 point average the last 3 seasons leading MTL in PP points last year by a fair margin so adding him to a team with a PP that can help him will see him hit career highs as a 24 year old forward in his 4th year .

Sundqvist gives us someone to use now on top LW by with Domi-Lehkonen for now while developing Kyrou in Laval this year and letting him come out hungry to camp next year like we did Suzuki,Evans and Fleury last year .
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:18 a.m.
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I guess people are losing faith in Fabbri. Perhaps I will make this trade if he shows stints of his value while not injured and given a chance.


its like Martin Havlat , Great player but little to no trade value .
Teams always wanted to be 1st in line to sign him because he was a clutch playoff performer in short bursts

Fabbri will be in a similar position until he hits 150+ games in 2 straight seasons without any major stints out
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Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:19 a.m.
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make the 1st in 2020 the draft is in MTL so fans will like the idea of 2 firsts

not to high on injury prone Fabbri , i mean he has upside as he's very responsible with the puck but that's 2 more bottom 6 forwards when we're already having issues finding room for KK, Poehling and Suzuki to fit in there . you're taking a top 6 player and giving us more bottom 6 pieces .

i like Sundqvist and the 1st but we'd need Kyrou to make it work .
STL is the reigning champ so adding a player who has 50 point average the last 3 seasons leading MTL in PP points last year by a fair margin so adding him to a team with a PP that can help him will see him hit career highs as a 24 year old forward in his 4th year .

Sundqvist gives us someone to use now on top LW by with Domi-Lehkonen for now while developing Kyrou in Laval this year and letting him come out hungry to camp next year like we did Suzuki,Evans and Fleury last year .


Isn't Kyrou still considered one of the league's top 10 prospects? I'm not a blues fan so I'm just experimenting with this AGM, but trading a top-level prospect for a 2nd line left winger seems a bit drastic.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I guess people are losing faith in Fabbri. Perhaps I will make this trade if he shows stints of his value while not injured and given a chance.


That's the problem w/ Fabbri, his big injury that cut an entire season. He's no longer the player that was coming out of junior, losing some development and thus potential, and the spots he could've taken w/ the Blues are being taken by younger guys, and he's being phased out of the Blues system. Same thing would happen in MTL, he'd just get phased out by the young guys in 1-2 years.

If he can manage to turn things around and regain some of his similar play from juniors, good for him, the Blues will have a good player. But currently, it doesn't look like that will happen, and he doesn't have much value rn.
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Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:27 a.m.
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Isn't Kyrou still considered one of the league's top 10 prospects? I'm not a blues fan so I'm just experimenting with this AGM, but trading a top-level prospect for a 2nd line left winger seems a bit drastic.


i never thought he was

he's a really good winger with speed maybe top 30 in the NHL but he's future no shoe in for first line like most of the top 10 prospects around the league . i'd say he's about Suzuki level prospect with as much skill but more speed where as Suzuki's known for positioning /hockey IQ. (Suzuki's gotten a lot faster and put on 10 pounds muscle and Claude Julien was impressed he listened to his advice last camp)

Kyrou is a dominant power play guy like Drouin which is why i included him
Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:33 a.m.
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i never thought he was

he's a really good winger with speed maybe top 30 in the NHL but he's future no shoe in for first line like most of the top 10 prospects around the league . i'd say he's about Suzuki level prospect with as much skill but more speed where as Suzuki's known for positioning /hockey IQ. (Suzuki's gotten a lot faster and put on 10 pounds muscle and Claude Julien was impressed he listened to his advice last camp)

Kyrou is a dominant power play guy like Drouin which is why i included him


If Kyrou's ceiling is the same or better than Drouin, would that not make it a 1 for 1 rather than STL still adding? Or is that what you are trying to say?
Is tatar more likely to be moved than drouin?
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Sep. 25, 2019 at 12:53 a.m.
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If Kyrou's ceiling is the same or better than Drouin, would that not make it a 1 for 1 rather than STL still adding? Or is that what you are trying to say?
Is tatar more likely to be moved than drouin?


i just meant purely his Playoff potential
Kyrou is like Kessel(not exactly but similar) type who plays 2nd/3rd line and top PP

i dont think he's a guy who will play top pair and top PP
he's a guy who will play 2nd /3rd line and top PP

Drouin has been a top 6 player since he was 21 years old and is the top PP forward
Kyrou is 21 and it doesnt look like he's making the cut this year bound for the AHL
Sep. 25, 2019 at 8:55 p.m.
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From a Blues perspective, allsorts of no happening here.


Quoting: Billy739

Drouin has been a top 6 player since he was 21 years old and is the top PP forward...



... and utterly worthless as a team player, he doesn't defend. Like, at all.

By the way, Kyrou is still recovering from surgery. He's slated to start in San Antonio for a pre-set reason.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 8:58 p.m.
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From a Blues perspective, allsorts of no happening here.





... and utterly worthless as a team player, he doesn't defend. Like, at all.

By the way, Kyrou is still recovering from surgery. He's slated to start in San Antonio for a pre-set reason.


this is a 2020-21 build
Sep. 25, 2019 at 8:59 p.m.
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this is a 2020-21 build



Yeah, I got that.
Sep. 25, 2019 at 9:19 p.m.
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From a Blues perspective, allsorts of no happening here.





... and utterly worthless as a team player, he doesn't defend. Like, at all.

By the way, Kyrou is still recovering from surgery. He's slated to start in San Antonio for a pre-set reason.


and 90% of the players on his teams dont produce on the PP , like at all lol

Drouin has Great Corsi and Fenwick stats but most importantly he averages as many forced turnovers as he does **** ups when he turns over the puck

year a 23 year old is still learning the game and evolving , sue him
Sep. 25, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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and 90% of the players on his teams dont produce on the PP , like at all lol

Drouin has Great Corsi and Fenwick stats but most importantly he averages as many forced turnovers as he does **** ups when he turns over the puck

year a 23 year old is still learning the game and evolving , sue him



Oh, he's allowed to be evolving. But so is Kyrou, who is two years younger, but you seem to have already set his ceiling. smile
 
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