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Guys please give me feedback on these trades

Created by: Daddy_Crosby
Initial Creation Date: Sep 26, 2019
Published: Sep 26, 2019 at 11:48
Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Trades
NYR
  1. Malkin, Evgeni
  2. Guentzel, Jake
  3. Galchenyuk, Alex
  4. Crosby, Sidney
PIT
  1. 2020 1st round pick (NYR)
  2. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
  3. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
  6. 2020 2nd round pick (NYR)
  7. 2020 3rd round pick (DAL)
  8. 2021 3rd round pick (NYR)
  9. 2021 3rd round pick (BUF)
  10. 2022 3rd round pick (NYR)
first round picks for the next 50 years
Buyouts
  • Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,483,333
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: $750,000 (19%)
Buried
  • Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NSH
VAN
2021
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$104,413,134$0$2,782,500-$22,913,134
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Namestnikov, Vladislav
$3,250,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$3,250,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Fast, Jesper
$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Strome, Ryan
$3,100,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Staal, Marc
$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
UFA - 7
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$792,500
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$833,333
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Andersson, Lias
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
McKegg, Greg
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Nieves, Cristoval
$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 2
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Sep 26, 2019 at 11:52
#1
mackinnon goat
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pittsburgh accepts
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Sep 26, 2019 at 11:53
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: moli92
pittsburgh accepts


i love Pittsburgh, im a pens fan
Sep 26, 2019 at 11:58
#3
Cousins on the PP
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Quoting: moli92
pittsburgh accepts


Not sure about that.
Will the Pens even get 50 1st rounds?
Maybe the Rangers organization goes bankrupt in the fall of 2020 because of poor economic choices by the owner, and no one will want to buy the organization because they won't want to touch the engaged dept.
Or, the other way, the Pens organization goes bankrupt and there are no buyers.

There's too much uncertainty with this trade.
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Sep 26, 2019 at 11:59
#4
mackinnon goat
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Quoting: Daddy_Crosby
i love Pittsburgh, im a pens fan


good for you
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Sep 26, 2019 at 12:12
#5
mackinnon goat
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Quoting: brady37
Not sure about that.
Will the Pens even get 50 1st rounds?
Maybe the Rangers organization goes bankrupt in the fall of 2020 because of poor economic choices by the owner, and no one will want to buy the organization because they won't want to touch the engaged dept.
Or, the other way, the Pens organization goes bankrupt and there are no buyers.

There's too much uncertainty with this trade.


I agree there is uncertainty, but even if this lasts for 25 years instead of 50 the pens still come out on top. the risk is minimized since the Rangers are the highest valued franchise in the entire league so I dont think they will be going bankrupt anytime soon. Its more likely that PIT goes bankrupt but thats still unlikely imo as they are just outside the top 10 in terms of franchise valuation. This would definitely set them back but after about 5-10 years of collecting double the 1st rounders they will be just fine.

This is all hypothetical though and I doubt the league would even let this trade happen (due to the likely failure of each team to become cap compliant and also due to the uncertainty of the future that you mentioned)
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Sep 26, 2019 at 12:22
#6
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lmao Namestnikov and Strome are still on the roster
Sep 26, 2019 at 12:52
#7
Cousins on the PP
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: moli92
I agree there is uncertainty, but even if this lasts for 25 years instead of 50 the pens still come out on top. the risk is minimized since the Rangers are the highest valued franchise in the entire league so I dont think they will be going bankrupt anytime soon. Its more likely that PIT goes bankrupt but thats still unlikely imo as they are just outside the top 10 in terms of franchise valuation. This would definitely set them back but after about 5-10 years of collecting double the 1st rounders they will be just fine.

This is all hypothetical though and I doubt the league would even let this trade happen (due to the likely failure of each team to become cap compliant and also due to the uncertainty of the future that you mentioned)


Yeah, I was just pulling your leg.
I also think there's a limit to the number of years following the current season that teams can trade (say maybe 5 years max?)
Let's just say it isn't like the CHL, where they can probably trade picks that are currently novice players, thus being over 10 years younger than the players that are moved.
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Sep 26, 2019 at 1:18
#8
Who adds what?
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NYR passes. You can't win in a salary cap league without first round picks.

Four years of the top three rounds, plus Kakko, and that's it. Pittsburgh have to add Schultz and Jarry, retain 50% on Malkin, and take back Namestnikov, Strome, Staal, Smith, and Lundqvist, to make the cap work. Then the deal nearly falls apart, because Lundqvist hears what he's being traded for, realizes it doesn't help his Cup chances, and declines to waive.

The deal is saved when Pittsburgh agrees to flip Lundqvist to Columbus for Bemstrom and a 1st. Lundqvist signs off on the new three-way deal. With a goalie who's decent under pressure, to go with their excellent defense, Columbus wins the next two Stanley Cups, and Lundqvist finally retires, assured of a first-ballot entry into the Hall of Fame.

New York leads the league in regular season goals for, but their defense and goaltending aren't enough and they don't make it past the conference finals. Frustrated about lack of ice time, Panarin moves to the KHL after Crosby and Malkin retire. In the meantime, the extra sellouts and TV ratings in one of the biggest TV markets in North America help the NHL double its TV revenues, and no team ever worries about going bankrupt, again. GMs initially were confused about what Pittsburgh was going for, here, but after four years they get back to the playoffs, and remain profitable, indefinitely. Along with the picks they got for Murray, Letang, and Hornqvist, they develop a completely unrecognizable squad around Kakko, and it comes out better in five years than they'd be without this trade, or without the next four lottery picks they get in the basement of the league's toughest division.
Sep 26, 2019 at 1:54
#9
First NY Then LA
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Leave comedy to the professionals. It's harder than it looks.
Sep 26, 2019 at 2:52
#10
KFTW
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Rangers decline because all the Kakkos that will be drafted will be better than all the Crosbys and Malkins
 
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