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3-way with EDM and MIN

Created by: math731
Initial Creation Date: Sep 26, 2019
Published: Sep 26, 2019 at 12:45 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
EDM : They are looking for depth offensively and getting a guy like Drouin who could explodes next to Drai and McD as well as a solid forward prospect and a guy that has played well recently in preseason might be worth it for them.

MIN : Dreger recently said that Guerin was looking for a 1-2 C. They're getting one in Nuge.

MTL : MB needs to make space for Poehling and Suzuki. Trading Drouin and getting back a great prospect like Boldy is the best case scenario.
Trades
MTL
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Hudon, Charles
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Jesse Ylonen
MTL
  1. Boldy, Matthew [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
MTL
  1. Eriksson Ek, Joel
MIN
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MTL
    Jesse Ylonen
    EDM
    1. Eriksson Ek, Joel
    2. Evans, Jake
    Buyouts
    • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
    • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ANA
    SJS
    WPG
    MTL
    FLA
    MTL
    CHI
    2021
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    CHI
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$73,505,476$0$2,500,000$7,994,524
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MTL
    Tatar, Tomas
    $4,800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Domi, Max
    $3,150,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $3,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    $3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $3,083,333
    C
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Armia, Joel
    $2,600,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Lehkonen, Artturi
    $2,400,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Weal, Jordan
    $1,400,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Weise, Dale
    $2,350,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Peca, Matthew
    $1,300,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Thompson, Nate
    $1,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Cousins, Nick
    $1,000,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    $925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MTL
    Alzner, Karl
    $4,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    $7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 7
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    $10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    MTL
    Chiarot, Ben
    $3,500,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $5,500,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Kinkaid, Keith
    $1,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    $1,850,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Folin, Christian
    $800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Reilly, Mike
    $1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Mete, Victor
    $748,333
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:49
    #1
    Joined: May 2018
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    Not a bad idea, with Minnesota I'd try to get LHD Brodin in the deal as well (instead of that 2nd) and find a way to balance it out with MTL sending back Kulak or something. That would really help MTLs D!
    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:51
    #2
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    imo i think your over paying for RNH....i think the trade is fine w/o ylonen
    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:52
    #3
    benreich2112
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    How does this make any sense for EDM? They do need depth offensively but trading their 2nd line center to get it is not the way to do it.
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:52
    #4
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Minni doesn't have the cap for RNH.
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:53
    #5
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    The Oilers would be better off to just deal RNH to the Wild themselves and leave the Habs out, could get a better package from the Wild if they really want Nuge.
    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:53
    #6
    JustaHockeyFan79
    Joined: Apr 2018
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    Ur giving Drouin away for NOTHING! WHAT THE HECK! Ylonen is almost as good as Boldy!
    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:54
    #7
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    Steep price for Minnesota and ultimately stupid because Boldy looks to be a nice piece for their future but it does fit in with their owner wanting them to try to win now and it does address a huge need.

    @TanSor @MNBassman @Wildwinswhen Thoughts? I feel like instead of the 2nd, I'd want a roster player (Ek?) to go out to help clear up the number of forwards they currently have to make a spot for Nuge.
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 12:56
    #8
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    Quoting: palhal
    Minni doesn't have the cap for RNH.


    They also don't have a roster spot unless they want to sit someone who should be playing. A roster forward would likely need to go for cap and roster considerations, probably instead of the 2nd.
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 1:00
    #9
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    Quoting: JayTea
    They also don't have a roster spot unless they want to sit someone who should be playing. A roster forward would likely need to go for cap and roster considerations, probably instead of the 2nd.


    Quoting: Justahockeyfan
    Ur giving Drouin away for NOTHING! WHAT THE HECK! Ylonen is almost as good as Boldy!


    Quoting: Smokingun71
    The Oilers would be better off to just deal RNH to the Wild themselves and leave the Habs out, could get a better package from the Wild if they really want Nuge.

    I've changed it a bit... Better?
    Sep 26, 2019 at 1:12
    #10
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    I'm confused why the MN second is traded to MTL then traded back to MN? Is that just to show it could be either the 2nd or JEE as @JayTea suggested?

    As for the trade.... eh. I like Nuge but giving up Boldy is a big no-no IMO, especially since RNH is only signed for 2 more years. I'd rather just wait out Boldy's development,
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 1:55
    #11
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    Quoting: TanSor
    I'm confused why the MN second is traded to MTL then traded back to MN? Is that just to show it could be either the 2nd or JEE as @JayTea suggested?

    As for the trade.... eh. I like Nuge but giving up Boldy is a big no-no IMO, especially since RNH is only signed for 2 more years. I'd rather just wait out Boldy's development,


    Me too, my look at the deal was more of what might the organization do. The only 2 prospects that give me any hope they might be good is Kaprizov and Boldy and I wouldn't trade either personally. Just not sure Leipold and Guerin have a longer view or if they're dead set on trying to win now with Suter, Parise, Zuccarello, and Spurgeon.
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 3:14
    #12
    JustaHockeyFan79
    Joined: Apr 2018
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    I dont know if you see this but ur doing’

    Drouin
    Hudon
    2nd

    For
    Boldy
    Eriksson Ek
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    Sep 26, 2019 at 8:04
    #13
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    Quoting: JayTea
    Me too, my look at the deal was more of what might the organization do. The only 2 prospects that give me any hope they might be good is Kaprizov and Boldy and I wouldn't trade either personally. Just not sure Leipold and Guerin have a longer view or if they're dead set on trying to win now with Suter, Parise, Zuccarello, and Spurgeon.


    I agree. This could work with giving up Ek and a different prospect (Gerry time?), but there's no way we could trade Boldy or Kaprizov. I'd even consider Ek and Pateryn for RNH, before I'd trade our main prospects.

    I liked RNH all summer as a good guy to target. Hopefully Guerin can find a way.
     
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