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Colorado Avalanche signed Mikko Rantanen (6 Years / $9,250,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
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Sep 28 at 7:04
#26
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Good.
Sep 28 at 7:04
#27
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I'm ok with this. I wish it was 8 years for a tad more AAV but this is still way better than anyone who tried to use Marner as a comparable
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Sep 28 at 7:05
#28
BuFfaLoFan
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
Only Connor and Honka remain.


Honka😅
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Sep 28 at 7:17
#29
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Quoting: seb

For example, Marner's contract is 10.893 million per year. That means he receives about 5 million dollars per year. Rantanen, on the other hand, receives about 5.4 million per year after taxes. Point receives about 4.2 million after taxes because Tampa has no state tax.


This is actually a gross oversimplification. Players get taxed based on where they play each game. Your calculations are assuming they play all 82 games in the province/state their team resides in. So yes while Marner is taxed at 52% when he plays home games and against Ottawa, he is also taxes much less when playing his remaining 37-38 away games outside of Ontario much like Rantanen will be taxed more when playing games outside of Colorado.
Sep 28 at 7:22
#30
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
This is a useless comment. The numbers don't lie that Rantanen is pretty obviously carried by MacKinnon.


You can also make the argument MacKinnon is carried by Rantanen. Neither player was a point per game until they started playing on the same line
Sep 28 at 7:23
#31
habs_fan
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another rfa makes kyle dubas look like a f***ing idiot lmao
Sep 28 at 7:23
#32
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Quoting: JayBeagleFanAccount
For a guy who is really carried by MacKinnon, this is way too much money.


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Sep 28 at 7:28
#33
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Mikko Carried by Mackinnon Rantanen.


Leaf fans make me laugh. All the entitlement with nothing to show for it.
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Sep 28 at 7:53
#34
Jets
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Every RFA signed since Marner has made Kyle Dubas look like a doofus


Dubas is very lucky his club is mega rich and he can offer every fringe player a 1-way deal or his job would be much harder
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Sep 28 at 7:59
#35
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Makes the Marner signing even more horrendous


Makes Laine and Point look worse as well.
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Sep 28 at 7:59
#36
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This guy's not worth it at all. Landeskog makes both MacKinnon and rantannen. Trade all three.
Sep 28 at 8:03
#37
rangersandislesfan
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Some people thought we'd have tons of players go into the season unsigned. Last year there were 2 and this year there are only 2 right now. At the very most there will be as many as last year.
Sep 28 at 8:04
#38
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Quoting: moli92
I'm ok with this. I wish it was 8 years for a tad more AAV but this is still way better than anyone who tried to use Marner as a comparable


The Avs Cup window is as wide open as any team in the league, so the longer the term the better off the Avs probably are. 8 years would've been great, but this will work for both sides. I think this deal is the best out of the big RFA forwards when you consider the term.
Sep 28 at 8:06
#39
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Some people thought we'd have tons of players go into the season unsigned. Last year there were 2 and this year there are only 2 right now. At the very most there will be as many as last year.


I think most people thought Marner and/or Laine would hold out the longest. I thought it'd be Laine just b/c he had a big drop off in goals last season. Who'd have ever predicted Connor would be the last big name RFA unsigned?
Sep 28 at 8:08
#40
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Leaf fans make me laugh. All the entitlement with nothing to show for it.


They have a fanbase of 4,000,000 and an ownership w/ an open checkbook. Aside from that...
Sep 28 at 8:10
#41
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Quoting: MountRoyal514
Avs should be really good this year!


Avs should be really good for the next 10 years.
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Sep 28 at 8:11
#42
Oilers, Bruins, Habs
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And then there were two
Sep 28 at 8:14
#43
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Brian2016
They have a fanbase of 4,000,000 and an ownership w/ an open checkbook. Aside from that...


Open checkbook is sweet during a salary cap.
Sep 28 at 8:39
#44
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Open checkbook is sweet during a salary cap.


Salary cap doesn't prevent teams from loading up players w/ bonus money and paying their head coach the highest salary in the league, right? Ask any small market team how "sweet" it'd be to have 25% of the Leafs' revenue.
Sep 28 at 9:00
#45
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Brian2016
Salary cap doesn't prevent teams from loading up players w/ bonus money and paying their head coach the highest salary in the league, right? Ask any small market team how "sweet" it'd be to have 25% of the Leafs' revenue.


Paying a coach more doesn’t mean you get a good coach? Babs hasn’t got them out of the 1st round. And bonus money/signing bonus money still counts towards the AAV/salary cap hit. So it doest matter if Toronto owner has 30 trillion dollars. He still spent half the salary cap on 4! Players...... but yeah Carolina is full of envy or whatever small market team you think cares.
Sep 28 at 9:03
#46
BtZ's buttercup
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Good on AVs on this signing.
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Sep 28 at 9:05
#47
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Quoting: doogiski
This is actually a gross oversimplification. Players get taxed based on where they play each game. Your calculations are assuming they play all 82 games in the province/state their team resides in. So yes while Marner is taxed at 52% when he plays home games and against Ottawa, he is also taxes much less when playing his remaining 37-38 away games outside of Ontario much like Rantanen will be taxed more when playing games outside of Colorado.


no they are taxes at the rate to witch state/province THEY LIVE in. The jock tax is only payed when the player play a game in that city or state. they don't play they don't pay. when Rantanen will play in any province in canada he will pay...ZERO taxes. Canada does not levy a jock tax at a federal, provincial, or city level.
Sep 28 at 9:06
#48
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Paying a coach more doesn’t mean you get a good coach? Babs hasn’t got them out of the 1st round. And bonus money/signing bonus money still counts towards the AAV/salary cap hit. So it doest matter if Toronto owner has 30 trillion dollars. He still spent half the salary cap on 4! Players...... but yeah Carolina is full of envy or whatever small market team you think cares.


Bonus money allowed them to front-load contracts ts for Kapanen and Johnsson! They could've had any coach in the world and they chose Babcock. I never said hiring him was a good idea or that he's a great coach, so settle down. I also never agreed w/ the way they've managed their cap, especially in regards to Nylander and Marner.
Sep 28 at 9:10
#49
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Brian2016
Bonus money allowed them to front-load contracts ts for Kapanen and Johnsson! They could've had any coach in the world and they chose Babcock. I never said hiring him was a good idea or that he's a great coach, so settle down. I also never agreed w/ the way they've managed their cap, especially in regards to Nylander and Marner.


I’m not hyped up just simple explaining that having a lot of money is cool but in a salary cap era it hardly matters.
Sep 28 at 9:55
#50
best poster
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Quoting: habs_fan123
another rfa makes kyle dubas look like a f***ing idiot lmao


wouldn't be called other teams gms idiots when yours has 8 million buried in the minors.
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