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I AM NO LONGER A PENS FAN UNTIL RUTHERFORD IS FIRED

Created by: Daddy_Crosby
Initial Creation Date: Sep 30, 2019
Published: Sep 30, 2019 at 12:40
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
dont sign tanev and johnson

dont put desmith on waivers after he was better than murray

dont trade away hagelin for an overpaid defensman

dont trade sprong a good prospect

dont trade a 1st rounder for reaves then basically give him away

many more
Trades
PIT
    dont sign them
    DET
    1. Tanev, Brandon
    2. Johnson, Jack
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    2021
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    2022
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$77,381,625$132,500$3,700,000$4,118,375
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PIT
    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Hörnqvist, Patric
    $5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Galchenyuk, Alex
    $4,900,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    McCann, Jared
    $1,250,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Bjugstad, Nick
    $2,050,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Simon, Dominik
    $750,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Kahun, Dominik
    $925,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $1,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Blueger, Teddy
    $750,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PIT
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Murray, Matt
    $3,750,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Marino, John
    $925,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Schultz, Justin
    $5,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Pettersson, Marcus
    $874,125
    LD
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Gudbranson, Erik
    $4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Jarry, Tristan
    $675,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    PIT
    Riikola, Juuso
    $850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Trotman, Zach
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2

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    Sep 30, 2019 at 12:41
    #1
    Joined: Apr 2018
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    As a Devils fan.....thank you for Ray Shero
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 12:41
    #2
    KFTW
    Joined: Jul 2018
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    Man did JR and Pierre Dorion switch talents recently or something?
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 12:42
    #3
    Joined: May 2018
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    Quoting: csick
    Man did JR and Pierre Dorion switch talents recently or something?


    In Dorion's defence, it was hard to see if he was terrible or not, he does have the absolute worst owner in the NHL to deal with.
    Sep 30, 2019 at 12:43
    #4
    Joined: Nov 2016
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    Did you mean to say after he was better than Jarry?
    Sep 30, 2019 at 12:44
    #5
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    Quoting: kogger
    As a Devils fan.....thank you for Ray Shero


    when did the devils win a cup?
    Sep 30, 2019 at 12:50
    #6
    First NY Then LA
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    I think Sprong for Pettersson has worked out, and will work out, well for you, but I agree with the rest.

    For those that might be quick to quibble, Rutherford traded Hagelin for Tanner Pearson, whom he then traded for Erik Gudbranson, which is why you correctly say "don't trade away Hagelin for an overpaid defenseman."
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:03
    #7
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    Quoting: jeg5393
    Did you mean to say after he was better than Jarry?


    he had a better save percentage than murray
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:04
    #8
    Joined: Jul 2017
    Posts: 2,471
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    Wutt? DeSmith is no way better than Murray. Don’t trade Sprong for Petterson? Puhlease don’t ever refer to yourself as a pens fan lol. Sprong was put on waivers by anaheim ffs. Tanev has had a strong camp and preseason. Fits the team to a T.
    We didn’t trade a 1st for Reaves. That’s being disingenuous about the trade. The only reason that trade is a failure is because Lauzon ended up with too many concussions after being drafted.
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:07
    #9
    Joined: Dec 2017
    Posts: 1,079
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    I think you might be overreacting a little bit
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:07
    #10
    Joined: Apr 2018
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:10
    #11
    Joined: Dec 2017
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    Is it all Rutherford's fault? Seriously is trading Crosby really an option? How about Malkin and Letang? Years of buying at the TDL this is what happens now that there is a salary cap.
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:13
    #12
    bigZ
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    You do realize ANA just waived Sprong? We literally got a top 4 defenseman out of him who is now a core piece of our defense.... credit where credit is due
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:14
    #13
    GaudsWish
    Joined: Jan 2017
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    Quoting: bigZ98
    You do realize ANA just waived Sprong? We literally got a top 4 defenseman out of him who is now a core piece of our defense.... credit where credit is due


    was about to say the same thing
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:16
    #14
    bigZ
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Quoting: Daddy_Crosby
    he had a better save percentage than murray


    What?? Murray had 0.919 and Desmith and 0.916???? Guess i need to go to grade 2 math again.....
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:18
    #15
    best poster
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    i'm sure rutherford is shaken that a 6 year old is mad at him
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:21
    #16
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    Quoting: bigZ98
    What?? Murray had 0.919 and Desmith and 0.916???? Guess i need to go to grade 2 math again.....


    desmith played less games
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:22
    #17
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    Quoting: mondo
    i'm sure rutherford is shaken that a 6 year old is mad at him


    im 16 and you are a 50 year old flyers fan
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:23
    #18
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    Quoting: csick
    Man did JR and Pierre Dorion switch talents recently or something?


    yes
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:23
    #19
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    Quoting: kogger
    As a Devils fan.....thank you for Ray Shero


    i want him BACK NOW
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:27
    #20
    Joined: Apr 2018
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    Quoting: pharrow
    when did the devils win a cup?


    way too long ago, but we're headed in the right direction

    Signed an optimistic Devils fan who sat through watching an AHL team for probably 1/4 of the season last year, and sat through some of the most mediocre hockey teams thrown together (after 2012 and before 2017) witnessed our GM firing a coach to COACH the damn team, 0 prospects to be excited about and a piece of s h i t heading the scouting department
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:30
    #21
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    This might be the worst take on the penguins I have seen in a while.

    No person with more than 2 working brain cells thinks that desmith is a better option than Murray. The Pens were going to lose a goalie no matter what. They chose to keep the younger one with more of a ceiling.

    Tanev will be a perfect fit for what this team was missing. Who cares if his contract is for 6 years. Once Malkin and Letang are gone in 2 years nothing else will matter. This team will have to go through a proper rebuilding phase. Which means being terrible for a couple of years and rebuilding through the draft. There is no quick fix or retool at that point.

    Gudbranson has been great for the pens and his cap hit hasnt caused and issue.

    Sprong was put on waivers by a team that desperately needs scoring help and will most likely miss the playoffs. Rutherford got a top4 dman for him. Sprong is not a good prospect.

    He dropped 20 spots in the draft and gave up a 4th liner to get Reaves. Not the end of the world. You should blame Sullivan for misusing/not using him correctly. Plus he was eventually used to get jarred McCann.

    Many more? Do you mean BACK TO BACK STANELY CUPS YOU ENTITLED LITTLE SCUNT?

    You can't no longer be a pens fan because you obviously never where one in the first place.
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    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:31
    #22
    bigZ
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    Quoting: Daddy_Crosby
    desmith played less games


    Doesnt that just prove your point less? Murray depsite playing more games had a sv%?? You cannot be serious that desmith is better than Murray..... Jarry sure but muzz??? What????
    Sep 30, 2019 at 1:52
    #23
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    Quoting: Daddy_Crosby
    he had a better save percentage than murray


    As a change of pace from all the hellish feedback above ill try to give some constructive criticism.

    Save percentage isn't always everything. especially when it comes to the back up. You have to keep in mind the deployment is typically different where the starter will get the harder match ups and the back up will be filled in against easier teams to give the starter a break throughout the season. However, he did play well when murray was injured and he saw all of the starts. When you are looking at save percentage its good to look at the overall sample size where Murray has played +/- 160 games and desmith is down around 50.
    Sep 30, 2019 at 2:11
    #24
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    Quoting: csick
    Man did JR and Pierre Dorion switch talents recently or something?


    this is the most comments ive ever had in an armchair gm
    Sep 30, 2019 at 2:12
    #25
    Analytics are good
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    In, Rutherford's defense, the Bjugstad and Sprong trades have worked out very well for the Penguins
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