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How to Drive McDavid Out of EDM Jurco and Kassian are top 6 wingers

Created by: tormundgiantsbane
Initial Creation Date: Oct 1, 2019
Published: Oct 1, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
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I'm sorry but this might be the worst top 6 in the league. Supposedly this is the projected lineup for opening night. I love the Oilers and McDavid especially, but how can you be satisfied with this lineup as the best player in the world? It's so frustrating. He's going to leave at the end of his deal having had 0 playoff success thanks to incompetent management, and Oilers ownership will vilify him for it to cover themselves. Ho-Sang, Sprong, Baertschi, Petan all available via waivers today and they couldn't figure out a way to get ANY of them under the roster limit? This is the team that took a chance on Chiasson - and it worked - and they have the best waiver wire selection in years and can't figure it out. Seriously? By the way, this is not me talking smack about the Oilers. I genuinely want them to do well (they're one of my favorite teams) and I'm so frustrated that they can't put together a decent roster whilst having the best player in the world.
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
  • Sam Gagner: $315,000 (10%)
Buried
  • Sam Gagner: $1,760,000 ($2,835,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,611,999$0$1,770,000$1,888,001
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Jurco, Tomas
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 6
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Granlund, Markus
$1,300,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
EDM
Cave, Colby
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$720,000
RD
RFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Benning, Matthew
$1,900,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Manning, Brandon
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Sheahan, Riley
$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Persson, Joel
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
EDM
Brodziak, Kyle
$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1

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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:13
#1
The evil stats guy
Joined: Jun 2018
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Even as a leafs fan I want the Oilers to do well. Not because I like the Oilers but because the alternative is to waste the prime of a generational superstar and deprive us all of fantastic playoff hockey.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:20
#2
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Joined: Jul 2015
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Gee, I know folks criticize the Leafs and how they have spent their cap. But geez, the Oilers and some other teams have been so bad for so long, and doesn't look like there is hope is sight.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:21
#3
Joined: Nov 2017
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It blows my mind as well, a lot of teams actually surprised me by not picking up some of the waived players (my Senators included). I can imagine a world where McDavid is flanked by Ho-Sang and Baertschi/Sprong. Unfortunately, it didn't happen - and Holland is this close to pulling a Chiarelli.

Their centre depth is outstanding (though I see one of Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins on the wing with McDavid), their defence is adequate and the goaltenders leave something to be desired but these two put up pretty okay numbers last season. The one issue they have is on the wings, specifically ones to keep up with McDavid or put the puck in the net for or pass to Draisaitl. Holland had a choice of a free young winger and decided "Nah". I doubt I'll ever understand why he didn't nab one of them.

(Edit: Also, the 'worst Top6 in the league'? Ottawa says 'Hello')
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:22
#4
No regretzkys
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 255
Likes: 103
I think the unfortunate reality for Edmonton is that they are gonna suck for another 1-2 years. Once the cap goes up, some guys come off the books, and guys like Bouchard, Broberg, and Yamamoto can become every day players, they can add some quality pieces surrounding their core.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:27
#5
Rhianna gets it
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 715
Likes: 160
Lol, wow that is bad. Man it's frustrating watching them squander Drasaitl and McReallygoodplayer when they didn't have to. I'm sorry you have to watch this unfold, it must be enraging.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:34
#6
Frolik Deez Nutz
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 332
Likes: 39
Give it a period and a half before McNuggets and Drai are back on the same line. RNH is going to end up being the guy that leaves.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:39
#7
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 875
They're actually starting it with

Nygard McDavid Neal
Drai RNH Kassian

Which is likely better then this but I do agree however Holland wasnt overly left with a lot to work out with the fact he got rid of lucic was a plus. Also hes actually developing our talent and other prospects. Us quite a bit of cap space next year. This is defs a transition year an I'm not expecting anything hugely improved till next year
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Oct 1, 2019 at 5:53
#8
Fire Stan
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 824
Likes: 339
Chiarelli set this team back a few years, hopefully they get out of this while Mcdavid is still a god.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 6:13
#9
Joined: Mar 2019
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Quoting: Random2152
Even as a leafs fan I want the Oilers to do well. Not because I like the Oilers but because the alternative is to waste the prime of a generational superstar and deprive us all of fantastic playoff hockey.


My sentiments exactly. Sadly I'm not sure Holland can do alot right now as Chiarelli really messed this team up and didn't really develop talent while he was in Edmonton.
Oct 1, 2019 at 6:37
#10
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 7,711
Likes: 2,107
Quoting: CFMan
Chiarelli set this team back a few years, hopefully they get out of this while Mcdavid is still a god.


Chiarelli is the easy guy to point all the blame at but its bigger than him, the whole management group is incompetent....letting him do what he was dong, and at times from reports they made group decisions together that were god awful.

Nothing is going to change in Edmonton...Holland is just more of the same
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Oct 1, 2019 at 7:26
#11
Fire Stan
Joined: Apr 2017
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Quoting: coga16
Chiarelli is the easy guy to point all the blame at but its bigger than him, the whole management group is incompetent....letting him do what he was dong, and at times from reports they made group decisions together that were god awful.

Nothing is going to change in Edmonton...Holland is just more of the same


Chiarelli hired the people that make helped him make those incompetent decisions in the first place, and all final decisions come down to the gm, so it is easy to blame him because hes the most at fault, not 100% but enough. I dont think Holland will magically get them out of this, but it is annoying seeing Mcdavid surrounded by such a poor cast.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 7:33
#12
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Quoting: CFMan
Chiarelli hired the people that make helped him make those incompetent decisions in the first place, and all final decisions come down to the gm, so it is easy to blame him because hes the most at fault, not 100% but enough. I dont think Holland will magically get them out of this, but it is annoying seeing Mcdavid surrounded by such a poor cast.


I’m not talking about his staff, terrible hockey decisions I put and approved involved guys above him, that’s my point
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Oct 1, 2019 at 7:37
#13
Fire Stan
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Quoting: coga16
I’m not talking about his staff, terrible hockey decisions I put and approved involved guys above him, that’s my point


Ah I thought you meant Chia's front office not Edmontons ownership itself.
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Oct 1, 2019 at 10:42
#14
MisstheWhalers
Joined: Jan 2019
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Totally agree with this, no reason Holland couldn't have grabbed at least one of these forwards from the waiver wire, a guy like Ho-Sang who yes I know has a personality issue is a low risk pickup with decent upside, if he works out great and if not send him down and don't qualify him, no big deal.

I get that Holland didn't have much to work with but there's no excuse for not taking a flyer on a free player that barely makes more then league minimum.
Oct 2, 2019 at 12:15
#15
Chicago
Joined: Jun 2015
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I honestly don't believe McDavid makes it through his entire contract in EDM. I think he will request a trade in 3-4 years. Chiarelli had no idea how to manage assets, we saw it in Boston with Seguin, here with Yakupov, Eberle, and the Larsson trade. He rushes certain players, but stalls others. I don't understand how Benson isn't on this team yet, but guys like Brodziak and Granlund are. Benson is a great playmaker in a very unorganized league in the AHL. Imagine how good he'd be in a more fluid league like the NHL (Albeit, EDM isn't exactly structured). The ownership is stuck in the 80's with all these subpar grinders on lines like Kassian. Nuge walks, McDavid requests a trade, and then they'll trade Drai for a RD....
Oct 2, 2019 at 7:13
#16
Joined: Mar 2017
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Quoting: Dylan1995
They're actually starting it with

Nygard McDavid Neal
Drai RNH Kassian

Which is likely better then this


Agreed, and the only reason Nygard is in the top-6 is because Jurco is out with a minor injury right now. Jurco had a much better preseason.
Oct 2, 2019 at 7:14
#17
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Quoting: NickC1988
I honestly don't believe McDavid makes it through his entire contract in EDM. I think he will request a trade in 3-4 years. Chiarelli had no idea how to manage assets, we saw it in Boston with Seguin, here with Yakupov, Eberle, and the Larsson trade. He rushes certain players, but stalls others. I don't understand how Benson isn't on this team yet, but guys like Brodziak and Granlund are. Benson is a great playmaker in a very unorganized league in the AHL. Imagine how good he'd be in a more fluid league like the NHL (Albeit, EDM isn't exactly structured). The ownership is stuck in the 80's with all these subpar grinders on lines like Kassian. Nuge walks, McDavid requests a trade, and then they'll trade Drai for a RD....


Newsflash: Chiarelli works for the St Louis Blues.
Oct 2, 2019 at 8:04
#18
Chicago
Joined: Jun 2015
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Quoting: CD282
Newsflash: Chiarelli works for the St Louis Blues.


Newsflash: I said 'Chiarelli had'... Past tense cause I know he works for St. Louis. Take a lap.
Oct 3, 2019 at 7:47
#19
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Quoting: NickC1988
Newsflash: I said 'Chiarelli had'... Past tense cause I know he works for St. Louis. Take a lap.


Why bring up Chiarelli in reference to McDavid possibly requesting a trade sometime in the next 3-4 years? It makes zero sense.
Oct 3, 2019 at 7:53
#20
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Quoting: NickC1988
all these subpar grinders on lines like Kassian.


Did you watch the game last night? Kassian has pretty decent hands and he's a very good skater.
 
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