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Options for next year

Created by: ChiHawk
Initial Creation Date: Oct 3, 2019
Published: Oct 3, 2019 at 12:47 pm
Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Team Explanation
I see Gilbert, Boqvist, Beaudin and Mitchell all being ready to step in. As such, Murphy and Maatta are expendable.

Toronto is only going to have 1 defensive guy signed, so think Murphy would be a good fit. As such, Kap could be a good fit for the Hawks on the 2nd line adding much needed speed. Shaw as he is aging should move to bottom 6 versus the expectation that he could be that 2nd line RW.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Mitchell, Ian3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kubalik, Dominik2$2,000,000
Strome, Dylan3$5,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Lehner, Robin4$6,000,000
Trades
CHI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
TOR
  1. Murphy, Connor
CHI
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Määttä, Olli
Buyouts
  • Zack Smith: $1,083,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CHI
CHI
WPG
CHI
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
MTL
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$81,877,629$0$4,665,000$1,622,371
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
$863,333
RW, LW
RFA - 1
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$6,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
CHI
Strome, Dylan
$5,250,000
C
RFA
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
CHI
Saad, Brandon
$6,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$2,000,000
LW
RFA
CHI
Entwistle, Mackenzie
$811,667
C
RFA - 2
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
CHI
Kurashev, Philipp
$842,500
C, LW
RFA - 2
CHI
Kämpf, David
$1,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
$894,167
RD
RFA - 2
CHI
Lehner, Robin
$6,000,000
G
UFA
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$4,550,000
LD
UFA - 2
CHI
Mitchell, Ian
$925,000
RD
RFA
CHI
Delia, Collin
$1,000,000
G
UFA - 2
CHI
Gilbert, Dennis
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Beaudin, Nicolas
$894,167
D
RFA - 2

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Oct 3, 2019 at 1:02
#1
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i think it would take a little moe to get kap. but like the addition. i assume one of those Dmen will either faulter, or be traded. i'd like another veteran brought in (4-5th dman).

Strome will be a interesteing one. does he want 3 years cap hit woul dbe less than 5mil. does he get 6 years at 5.5-6mil. not sure which is better.

the Cat signing is perfect. in 3 years Chicago can really restart their team. by then a lot is going to switch we will have a lot of money paying or Dmen, and need to find real value up front. i think this team is set to be a force agin in the league starting this year. damn im excited for hockey to be back!!!!
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Oct 3, 2019 at 1:23
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Leafs can do a lot better than Murphy if they were to trade Kapanen. Plus they will have 4 guys under contract. Sandin, and Liljegren are on their ELC's, Rielly is still under contract and they'll have Dermott signed as well. They are in fine shape. Also Murphy isn't really anything special and gets paid too much.
Oct 3, 2019 at 2:11
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Leafs can do a lot better than Murphy if they were to trade Kapanen. Plus they will have 4 guys under contract. Sandin, and Liljegren are on their ELC's, Rielly is still under contract and they'll have Dermott signed as well. They are in fine shape. Also Murphy isn't really anything special and gets paid too much.


Murphy doesn't get paid too much and he's very solid top 4 guy; he was the best defensive player in the d zone last year for the Hawks. Kap is not returning a top 2 or even 3 defensiveman like so many leafs fans think they can get for him.
Oct 3, 2019 at 2:14
#4
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Quoting: battadan
i think it would take a little moe to get kap. but like the addition. i assume one of those Dmen will either faulter, or be traded. i'd like another veteran brought in (4-5th dman).

Strome will be a interesteing one. does he want 3 years cap hit woul dbe less than 5mil. does he get 6 years at 5.5-6mil. not sure which is better.

the Cat signing is perfect. in 3 years Chicago can really restart their team. by then a lot is going to switch we will have a lot of money paying or Dmen, and need to find real value up front. i think this team is set to be a force agin in the league starting this year. damn im excited for hockey to be back!!!!


No reason to bring in another vet otherwise we wouldn't trade Murphy especially and maybe not Maatta. Just keep Murphy then.

I think you're right on Strome. 3 years at $5.25M is too much but also trying to be a bit conservative. I don't think we want to lock in Strome long term, let's play out our options. With Dach and a handful of centers in the prospect system, Strome could very well turn into a 3C for us down the road for us and would be too expensive at the price he demands.

Will be interesting to see where this team is in another year. I think 20/21 is going to be a good season for the Hawks.
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Oct 3, 2019 at 2:46
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Murphy doesn't get paid too much and he's very solid top 4 guy; he was the best defensive player in the d zone last year for the Hawks. Kap is not returning a top 2 or even 3 defensiveman like so many leafs fans think they can get for him.


Best defensive player for the team that allowed the 3rd most goals in the NHL. He's only top 4 on a bad team. He's not an upgrade. I don't think Kap will return a top 2 but he'll certainly bring an actual 2nd pair defenceman who would probably be younger and have an upside. Murphy isn't really anything special.
Oct 3, 2019 at 2:50
#6
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Best defensive player for the team that allowed the 3rd most goals in the NHL. He's only top 4 on a bad team. He's not an upgrade. I don't think Kap will return a top 2 but he'll certainly bring an actual 2nd pair defenceman who would probably be younger and have an upside. Murphy isn't really anything special.


Murphy is a top 4 player on at least 50% of NHL teams...including the Leafs. But yeah, a winger that is 3 years younger playing on lines with A talent producing at .4 ppg and .2 gpg isn't going to ring the bell for a return either. Murphy for Kap is a fair trade period.
Oct 3, 2019 at 2:55
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Murphy is a top 4 player on at least 50% of NHL teams...including the Leafs. But yeah, a winger that is 3 years younger playing on lines with A talent producing at .4 ppg and .2 gpg isn't going to ring the bell for a return either. Murphy for Kap is a fair trade period.


He's not an accomplished player, he isn't a top 4 in TO and he isn't remotely close to the value of a 23 year old with a lot of upside. There is a reason you are on here trading Murphy all the time and that reason isn't because he's a vital piece of your team. He has little to no offense, isn't a shutdown player and at 26 isn't going to somehow turn into something he clearly isn't. The players that are better than him, are equal to him or will be better than him in the very near future are Rielly, Sandin, Dermott and Liljegren. Why would the Leafs move someone as valuable as Kapanen, for a 4 million dollar bottom pair defenseman?
Oct 3, 2019 at 3:02
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
He's not an accomplished player, he isn't a top 4 in TO and he isn't remotely close to the value of a 23 year old with a lot of upside. There is a reason you are on here trading Murphy all the time and that reason isn't because he's a vital piece of your team. He has little to no offense, isn't a shutdown player and at 26 isn't going to somehow turn into something he clearly isn't. The players that are better than him, are equal to him or will be better than him in the very near future are Rielly, Sandin, Dermott and Liljegren. Why would the Leafs move someone as valuable as Kapanen, for a 4 million dollar bottom pair defenseman?


The reason I'm trading him all the time is because the Hawks have one of the deepest defensive prospect pools in the league and 2 of which whom are on the right and ready next year (boqvist and mitchell). We have a known logjam on defense with Boqvist, Beaudin, Gilbert, Mitchell, Vlasic....that's why. Murphy is a shutdown player...like I said, defensively he was the best last season for the Hawks and he's 26 not 32. Now you're going to suggest your prospects are all better? Let's see how that works out.
Oct 3, 2019 at 3:37
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Quoting: ChiHawk
The reason I'm trading him all the time is because the Hawks have one of the deepest defensive prospect pools in the league and 2 of which whom are on the right and ready next year (boqvist and mitchell). We have a known logjam on defense with Boqvist, Beaudin, Gilbert, Mitchell, Vlasic....that's why. Murphy is a shutdown player...like I said, defensively he was the best last season for the Hawks and he's 26 not 32. Now you're going to suggest your prospects are all better? Let's see how that works out.


Murphy isn't good. He's less than Adam Larsson, who is also not good. Keep him or send him somewhere else.
Oct 3, 2019 at 5:08
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Murphy isn't good. He's less than Adam Larsson, who is also not good. Keep him or send him somewhere else.


Better then Ceci
Oct 3, 2019 at 5:10
#11
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Better then Ceci


Who may not even last the season in TO. Sandin is already better than Ceci. As is Dermott and in the very near future Liljegren. And you can probably replace Ceci's name with Murphy and the same applies. Keep Murphy or send him to a team with a stupid GM, like Edmonton or Vancouver.
Oct 3, 2019 at 7:46
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Who may not even last the season in TO. Sandin is already better than Ceci. As is Dermott and in the very near future Liljegren. And you can probably replace Ceci's name with Murphy and the same applies. Keep Murphy or send him to a team with a stupid GM, like Edmonton or Vancouver.


Not even close...Murphy is hands down better then Ceci and is cheaper too yet here you are with Ceci!
Oct 3, 2019 at 8:16
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Not even close...Murphy is hands down better then Ceci and is cheaper too yet here you are with Ceci!


Sure, but being better than Ceci isn't really an accomplishment.
Oct 3, 2019 at 9:41
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Sure, but being better than Ceci isn't really an accomplishment.


...and yet here the Leafs are with Ceci and you're saying you wouldn't want murphy.
Oct 4, 2019 at 7:24
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Quoting: ChiHawk
...and yet here the Leafs are with Ceci and you're saying you wouldn't want murphy.


I have been pretty clear here that I don't want either. Ceci is currently on the team and cost Connoe Brown and Zaitsev to acquire while you are on here saying Kapanen for Murphy is a fair deal. The Leafs replaced Zaitsev with Ceci, they won't move a much better asset for another Zaitsev which is pretty much what Murphy is. I get you want Kapanen but it's going to require a quality piece back. Not a bottom 4 right handed defenceman you don't want.
Oct 4, 2019 at 3:26
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murphy stinks. thats nowhere close getting kapanen
 
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