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Team: 2019-20 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2019
Published: Oct. 3, 2019
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23$81,500,000$69,035,948$0$1,482,500$12,464,052

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
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LW
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NMC
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 4
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LD
UFA - 1
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LD
UFA - 2
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G
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
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LD/RD
UFA - 1
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RD
UFA - 2
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Oct. 3, 2019 at 4:43 p.m.
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Not bad. Kopitar and Vilardi will probably never be on the same line, they almost have the exact game. I am hoping Forbort is traded in the beginning of this season. If Bjornfot continues to impress and they decide to keep him on the team that might make a strong case for Forbort getting traded and quite honestly anyone is an improvement on Forbort, he is a career ECHLer.
It will probably look like this assuming what I stated above is accurate:
Iafallo Kopitar Brown
Kovalchuk Vilardi Carter(or Vilardi and Carter swapped)
Grundstrom Kempe Toffoli
Clifford Lewis Wagner

Bjornfot Doughty
Martinez Roy
Hutton MacDermid
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Oct. 3, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.
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Not bad. Kopitar and Vilardi will probably never be on the same line, they almost have the exact game. I am hoping Forbort is traded in the beginning of this season. If Bjornfot continues to impress and they decide to keep him on the team that might make a strong case for Forbort getting traded and quite honestly anyone is an improvement on Forbort, he is a career ECHLer.
It will probably look like this assuming what I stated above is accurate:
Iafallo Kopitar Brown
Kovalchuk Vilardi Carter(or Vilardi and Carter swapped)
Grundstrom Kempe Toffoli
Clifford Lewis Wagner

Bjornfot Doughty
Martinez Roy
Hutton MacDermid


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Oct. 3, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.
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Not bad. Kopitar and Vilardi will probably never be on the same line, they almost have the exact game. I am hoping Forbort is traded in the beginning of this season. If Bjornfot continues to impress and they decide to keep him on the team that might make a strong case for Forbort getting traded and quite honestly anyone is an improvement on Forbort, he is a career ECHLer.
It will probably look like this assuming what I stated above is accurate:
Iafallo Kopitar Brown
Kovalchuk Vilardi Carter(or Vilardi and Carter swapped)
Grundstrom Kempe Toffoli
Clifford Lewis Wagner

Bjornfot Doughty
Martinez Roy
Hutton MacDermid


I like your lines more than I like the OP's lines. But I think you said a couple of things incorrectly. First of all, Forbort isn't a "career ECHLer". It's absolutely criminal that he plays with Drew Doughty for sure, but Derek Forbort would be a SOLID 5/6th defenseman on many teams, including the Kings. He can eat tons of minutes, has a great stick, and can kill penalties. Those are qualities plenty of teams are looking for. It's not his fault that he's been placed in a position where the Kings have had no organizational depth after the loss of Muzzin.

Second, I personally prefer Walker over MacDermid. BicMac hasn't shown enough at the NHL level to warrant anything more than a 7th defenseman spot. He's big and can throw down, for sure, but more often than not he's a defensive liability out there because of his poor passing, poor skating, and below average hockey IQ. I would love for him to turn into a poor man's Dustin Byfuglien, but it's not gonna happen.
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Oct. 3, 2019 at 5:08 p.m.
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I like your lines more than I like the OP's lines. But I think you said a couple of things incorrectly. First of all, Forbort isn't a "career ECHLer". It's absolutely criminal that he plays with Drew Doughty for sure, but Derek Forbort would be a SOLID 5/6th defenseman on many teams, including the Kings. He can eat tons of minutes, has a great stick, and can kill penalties. Those are qualities plenty of teams are looking for. It's not his fault that he's been placed in a position where the Kings have had no organizational depth after the loss of Muzzin.

Second, I personally prefer Walker over MacDermid. BicMac hasn't shown enough at the NHL level to warrant anything more than a 7th defenseman spot. He's big and can throw down, for sure, but more often than not he's a defensive liability out there because of his poor passing, poor skating, and below average hockey IQ. I would love for him to turn into a poor man's Dustin Byfuglien, but it's not gonna happen.


MacDermid hasn't been given a solid chance. He has improved a lot this preseason and deserves 50 straight games a real shot to prove himself. If he can get a little quicker he could be a serious and scary shut down dman.
Idk if you watch every Kings game like I do, but Forbort is complete trash. There is nothing solid about him in any role. He is constantly making mistakes in the defensive end and Doughty always has to try and bail him out. Any time I did see him doing something solid he turns around does something dumb. Maybe career AHLer is more generous.
Walker hasn't done anything worth keeping him in the lineup. He doesn't do anything and he has 39 games under his belt. It's time to give that spot to someone else.
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Oct. 3, 2019 at 5:14 p.m.
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MacDermid hasn't been given a solid chance. He has improved a lot this preseason and deserves 50 straight games a real shot to prove himself. If he can get a little quicker he could be a serious and scary shut down dman.
Idk if you watch every Kings game like I do, but Forbort is complete trash. There is nothing solid about him in any role. He is constantly making mistakes in the defensive end and Doughty always has to try and bail him out. Any time I did see him doing something solid he turns around does something dumb. Maybe career AHLer is more generous.
Walker hasn't done anything worth keeping him in the lineup. He doesn't do anything and he has 39 games under his belt. It's time to give that spot to someone else.


I think we've beat the MacDermid issue like a dead horse, so I won't rehash. I only want to jump in to say that the time to earn your spot on the NHL roster is during practice, not games. Any player (MacDermid included), should not be gifted ice time because it's his turn. If he wants to play, he needs to outperform his competition at practice. That's exactly why he made the team out of training camp a couple seasons ago, because the coaches were impressed with his work ethic and eruditeness. That wasn't the case during training camp this year, and his spot was given to more deserving players.
Oct. 3, 2019 at 5:20 p.m.
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MacDermid hasn't been given a solid chance. He has improved a lot this preseason and deserves 50 straight games a real shot to prove himself. If he can get a little quicker he could be a serious and scary shut down dman.
Idk if you watch every Kings game like I do, but Forbort is complete trash. There is nothing solid about him in any role. He is constantly making mistakes in the defensive end and Doughty always has to try and bail him out. Any time I did see him doing something solid he turns around does something dumb. Maybe career AHLer is more generous.
Walker hasn't done anything worth keeping him in the lineup. He doesn't do anything and he has 39 games under his belt. It's time to give that spot to someone else.


I do watch every Kings game, except for those that fall on games that I coach (at the high school level). You're welcome to your opinion, but I disagree with your points.

The numbers simply do not back up your argument on BigMac. Kurtis MacDermid has more NHL games under his belt than Sean Walker with 45 as opposed to your mentioned 39. Walker has twice as many points in those games (10 to Mac's 5), over 60 less penalty minutes, and a comparable +/- (which is a stat that has it's pro's and con's in itself). BigMac is 25, Walker is a year younger at 24. What you see is what you get with MacDermid, and possibly to an extent, Walker as well. I'd rather play the productive player who can keep up with the pace of play and not be a liability sitting in the penalty box.

And again, Forbort is not complete trash. He's a misused asset that would be a solid shut-down defenseman on many teams, as long as he was on the 3rd pair. Not placed with the best defenseman in the world going against the world's best competition shift after shift. Again, you're welcome to your opinion. I just disagree.
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I think we've beat the MacDermid issue like a dead horse, so I won't rehash. I only want to jump in to say that the time to earn your spot on the NHL roster is during practice, not games. Any player (MacDermid included), should not be gifted ice time because it's his turn. If he wants to play, he needs to outperform his competition at practice. That's exactly why he made the team out of training camp a couple seasons ago, because the coaches were impressed with his work ethic and eruditeness. That wasn't the case during training camp this year, and his spot was given to more deserving players.


There are some things we will never agree on. I think we learned that about 2 years ago.
 
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