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St. Louis Blues signed Brayden Schenn (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:39
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Brayden Schenn has signed a new contract with the St. Louis Blues.
STANDARD CONTRACT (EXTENSION)
COMPARE THIS CONTRACT
LENGTH: 8 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: St. Louis BluesSt. Louis Blues
VALUE: $52,000,000
C.H.% : 7.98
SIGNING DATE: October 4, 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2020-21NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2021-22NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2022-23NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$5,200,000$5,200,000$5,200,000
2023-24NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2024-25NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$8,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2025-26Modified NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$6,500,000$6,500,000$6,500,000
2026-27Modified NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$4,300,000$4,300,000$4,300,000
2027-28Modified NTC$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$0$4,000,000$4,000,000$4,000,000
TOTAL$52,000,000$52,000,000$0$0$52,000,000$52,000,000$52,000,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Starting July 1, 2025: Player submits a 15 team no trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: CapFriendly
Oct 4, 2019 at 9:40
#2
Go Jets Go
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Great AAV, length is questionable though...
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:41
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BostonBeat97
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And that leaves just petro. Hopefully they can get a deal done with him. With so little cap space, i would assume steen could be bought out or traded this off-season.
Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42
#4
The Enlightened One
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I like Schenn and his AAV, but YOU CANNOT GIVE 8 YEARS TO A PLAYER EXITING THEIR PRIME - ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY AREN'T ELITE TOP LINE TALENT!
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42
#5
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They're sniffing something with these terms...
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42
#6
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AAV is fine. Term is awful with the style he plays. Not too mention, what happens to Schwartz after next year? What does Dunn sign for? Petro? Parayko?

Only benefit is that I see Steen being bought out and Allen traded. Perron likely taken by Seattle.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:43
#7
Almost Zach Parise
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Ugh, who’s ready for 3000 leafs AGM’s where they sign Pietrangelo
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:43
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Quoting: Random2152
I like Schenn and his AAV, but YOU CANNOT GIVE 8 YEARS TO A PLAYER EXITING THEIR PRIME - ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY AREN'T ELITE TOP LINE TALENT!


Not just that, but play the type of style he plays means he's going to go downhill fast. David Backes anyone?
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:45
#9
best poster
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I assumed that Schenn was going to be going to UFA.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:47
#10
Go Flames Go!
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8 years? Seriously? Thats definitely not good...
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:50
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Jetsfan
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Schenn is only 28....yes 8 years is a long term but thats the only way to keep the AAV down...IMO, he is worth more than 6.5 but the Blues dont have the space....
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54
#12
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Quoting: BostonBeat97
And that leaves just petro. Hopefully they can get a deal done with him. With so little cap space, i would assume steen could be bought out or traded this off-season.


Steen bought out, Allen traded. But how much will Petro want and for what term? Dunn still needs to be resigned after this season. Schwartz is up after next season. Granted, Bozak comes off the books then as well as Gunnar, but the term is big issue I have with the style he plays.
Oct 4, 2019 at 9:55
#13
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This seems like a very very bad deal waiting to happen.

Schenn is a good player, but he turns 29 before playing a single game on this deal. The AAV is ok, but realistically it's not really that low for a 55 point middle six player, let alone one that will likely be declining for most of this contract. Also, players that play a similar style of game to Schenn tend to fall off faster than others, so I think this is an awfully bad bet.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:57
#14
Oui non grille-pain
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The $$ is actually a steal. The length, not so much.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 9:57
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Smelling buy out end of contract. 32- 34 years of age max when long term contract needs finish.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:00
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#DisruptTheNight
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Hefty hefty hefty
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:15
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Tom Wilson of ACGM
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Quoting: Random2152
I like Schenn and his AAV, but YOU CANNOT GIVE 8 YEARS TO A PLAYER EXITING THEIR PRIME - ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY AREN'T ELITE TOP LINE TALENT!


He is still in his prime and yes they can especially when the player takes a discount like that to stay with the team he loves. he could easily get Duchene money on the open market 8M.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:16
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AwesomeMatthews
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Flyers fans shed a tear.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:16
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habs_fan
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the term
Oct 4, 2019 at 10:24
#20
Tspky
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Compliance buyout after the next cba?
Oct 4, 2019 at 10:47
#21
Not a burger anymore
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The Hayes contract looks even worse after this.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:49
#22
The Enlightened One
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Quoting: Bf3351
He is still in his prime and yes they can especially when the player takes a discount like that to stay with the team he loves. he could easily get Duchene money on the open market 8M.


A players prime is now accepted to be 23-26 with decline beginning at 28-30. He is very much exiting his prime. And no, you cannot give 8 years to a guy who will be 37 when his deal expires when he will fall off badly before that. Especially with his style of play he is just going to stop being good one day. This is a bad deal man.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:54
#23
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Ugh, who’s ready for 3000 leafs AGM’s where they sign Pietrangelo


Why do you hate/care about the Leafs so much? I swear every post I see you make is about the Leafs and/or their fans? Just ignore them...
Oct 4, 2019 at 10:54
#24
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Term is a little long, but man does this make the Hayes deal look terrible.
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Oct 4, 2019 at 10:56
#25
rangersandislesfan
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Schenn signs for more than DeBrincat?
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