why?
they can buy him out for almost that same amount. There is no point in doing that.

8 years?

Poorly thought out. Say we are talking about the summer of 2020 since that’s the next time JJ can be bought out. Paying JJ 750,000 for 3 more seasons (which is 2.25 total) far outweighs paying him :

Year 1: 1.166667
Tear 2: 1.166667
Year 3: 1.916667
Year 4: .916667
Year 5: .916667
Year 6: .916667

Total: About 7 million

Under no circumstances is it better to buy him out than retain 750,000. If the pens were paying him 2.25 mil (750,000 x 3) by retaining this amount on JJ for 3 more season, they’d be paying JJ 4.25 mil (1.166667+1.166667+1.916667) in the same span of time by buying him out. Plus another 2.75 million after the retention would be over. Penguins are too cap strapped every year to sacrifice that kind of money.

Don’t mind the trade though

I think it makes sense...I feel like they’re going to have to retain on JJ regardless of the situation. Plus retaining 750K is nothing in the grand scheme of it all as it’s the going rate of an extra skater or AHL call up.

I agree. Pens may even be able to retain 500,000 and get away with it. Think the Pens can rid themselves of JJ’s contract without giving up Hallander and a 1st like most people foolishly think.

These are poorly thought out issues with buying him out.
You act like those extra years mean anything. They won't even be competitive then and you are worrying about cap space. That's just nonsense talk.
This team is going to stink in a few years and EVERYONE with a brain knows it.
So who cares about carrying a 1 million cap hit then.
To retain 500k is useless.
It's only saving 500k a year and not worth the cost.

They were able to get rid of Rob Scuderi a few years back by retaining a little over $1M and they got a key piece in their back to back Cups in Trevor Daley as the return. I think GMJR could have pulled this off already it’s just Rust going on LTIR halted things a bit.

Yeah, 750k doesn't matter a ton to the pens (as you said) but it makes his contract look so much nicer and easier to move to another team

JJ at $2.5-2.75M is ideal because that’s more than affordable for a third pair defenseman and I’d much rather pay the retention for 3-4 years than take on an 8 year buyout. I feel like a team would be more than willing to take him on at that price especially if there’s a sweetener attached.

Just because the team will suck in a couple years doesn’t mean you idiotically waste money, but say we are basing this on your piss poor rational and only the first 3 years of the buyout matter and those extra 3 years don’t. Your point is still thoughtless at best. Paying JJ 2.25 over three years by retaining is less than paying him 4.25 in the same span of time and as you so elegantly put it “ EVERYONE with a brain knows it.” Every last dime matters for this team over the next 3 years.

piss poor logic is what you are coming up with giving away tons of assets for saving 250k a year. How F stupid is that.
The 250k is not worth it.
FFS pull your head out of your backside.

As I said, it's better to simply buy him out. No one cares about the extra years. This team will be a disaster by then. The cap will mean nothing.
If you aren't going to get a decent trade for him, it's not worth wasting assets.
Your brainless comments are unreal.
This team has maybe 2 years left in it.

Malkin will be 34 and 35.
Even those years frankly are questionable if he will still be dominate at 35.
Crosby will be 33 and 34. So the 3rd year he will be 35 years old. You really going to compete for a cup with your best two players at 36 and 35. Here is a clue probably not.

So you are looking at paying 1.75 to 2.3.... WOW that is clearly worth giving a 2 assets. GTFOH
That isn't worth giving up Shizzzzzzzzzzzzzzt.

Clearly you are more clueless than I anticipated and you apparently can't read, so I will state it for you again. Try reading this time. JUST BECAUSE THE TEAM WILL SUCK IN A COUPLE YEARS DOESN'T MEAN YOU IDIOTICALLY WASTE MONEY. This statement alone invalidates your entire argument, but I will continue spoon feeding you this information cause you clearly cant grasp it on your own. There is a basic common sense factor here that you clearly lack.

"Tons of assets." Its DeSmith and a 2nd bud. Not Hallander, POJ, Addison, and two 1st. I understand what you're saying. Giving up nothing is better than giving up assets, but sometimes its better to give up assets in order to get rid of a player and be done with him (and spend less money in the long run) than it is to buy him out and be stuck paying him money for twice as long as his contract regardless of how the team will look during that buyout window cause (Read statement in all caps in previous paragraph). If the pens could trade Scuderi and get Trevor Daley out of it, then who knows how this could turn out. Im sure the return won't be as nice cause Scuderi only had a year left on his deal, but you never know.

"As I said, it's better to simply buy him out. No one cares about the extra years. This team will be a disaster by then. The cap will mean nothing." I addressed this thoughtless sentences in previous posts, but since you can't read, I will repeat it to you. Say nobody cared for these extra years and only the first two mattered. You're paying JJ 2.33 mil in two years by buying him out as opposed to paying him 1.5 by retaining 750,000 on him. In case you didn't know....1.5 mil is a lower number than 2.33 mil and as I stated clearly before the Penguins will be too cap strapped (even in just those two years) to sacrifice that kind of money even if it's only 833,000. The team won't be a disaster at any point in time while Crosby and Malkin are on the team. That comment truly does expose your lack of knowledge. Im not saying they are winning any cups or even making the playoffs, but they won't be a disaster. They will remain a competitive team as long as those two are still around.

"So you are looking at paying 1.75 to 2.3." Thats not true. If you could do some simple math in your head you would know that 750,000 x 2 is 1.5 million, not 1.75, but hey look at the bright side. At least you got 1.16667 x 2 correct. Way to go champ! No matter how you look at it, your argument is riddled with flaws. Try thinking BEFORE typing out your next comment because you definitely didn't do that prior to typing this last one out. I will repeat one of your comments because it refers to you more than it does myself. I believe it was "pull your head out of your backside" as you so childishly put it. It's not a hat. Even if you really want it to be. Given that you have trouble with reading, you likely won't comprehend a single word I said here, but hopefully it get through this time. Im not holding my breath, though.

you over here worrying about "wasting money" on a team that will trying to hit the cap floor when they suck because they don't have anyone with enough talent to pay tons of money too.
I can't even be bothered with the rest of this mess.
Year 2-3 + means nothing on the buy out. Any reasonable person gets that. You over here trying to save 250k a year like that means shizzzt. Don't waste everyone's time with that mess.
They wouldn't be bothered with that crap.