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Winnipeg improving their D core

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Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 7, 2019
Published: Oct. 7, 2019
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23$81,500,000$76,862,024$0$697,500$4,637,976
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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LW
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
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$4,995,000$4,995,000
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,916,667$2,916,667
C
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RW
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
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C
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
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RD
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G
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
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$1,225,000$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 5
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$850,000$850,000
LD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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$7,600,000$7,600,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RD
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 8:53 a.m.
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Easy pass
Oct. 7, 2019 at 8:53 a.m.
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Trading our first pick for this year would be so stupid. Might end up being a high chance lottery pick.
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 9:01 a.m.
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Easy pass


Not easy pass wth. Getting Vesalainen and a 1st for a decent 4th defencemen, an impending free agent 3rd liner and a struggling prospect is a great return.
Oct. 7, 2019 at 9:04 a.m.
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Not easy pass wth. Getting Vesalainen and a 1st for a decent 4th defencemen, an impending free agent 3rd liner and a struggling prospect is a great return.


Risto playing well +Winnipeg struggling and desperate=better return for the Sabres. Tage and vesalainen are a wash for I could care right now. So it's top 4d middle six winger for a 1st and a cap dump.
Oct. 7, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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Risto playing well +Winnipeg struggling and desperate=better return for the Sabres. Tage and vesalainen are a wash for I could care right now. So it's top 4d middle six winger for a 1st and a cap dump.


Thompson is trash, he's essentially a throw in, Vesalainen has much more value than him right now.

Perreault is also better than Sheary, even though he makes more than Sheary.
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 10:29 a.m.
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Thompson is trash, he's essentially a throw in, Vesalainen has much more value than him right now.

Perreault is also better than Sheary, even though he makes more than Sheary.


Yeah, but Vesalainen hasn't proved anything and the risk of him becoming nothing is too big to trade Ristolainen.
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Oct. 7, 2019 at 10:31 a.m.
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Easy pass


For the jets yes I agree
Oct. 10, 2019 at 11:22 a.m.
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A few observations:
-Ristolainen manages to play 24 minutes a night for 4 different head coaches, my take away is the person whose job is on the line and his success is determined by the players on the ice, all value Ristolainen more than any other defenseman on the roster.
-The last 4 years (including this year), Perreault (46 goals 117 pts) and Sheary (5 goals 120 pts) each played 221 games, neither PK’s, Sheary has a slight edge with more ice time last year but the two previous years the TOI are about the same, so who is more valuable? BTW, I would rather have 27 yo Sheary @ $3KK than 32 (in Jan 2020) yo Perreault @ $4KK (but I do love his name).
-The Blues rushed Thompson to NHL, and unfortunately the Sabres as well, Big players take longer to develop. In his last 12 AHL games he has 10 goals, he bulked up over the summer, he dominated the french connection 3 on 3, he was voted the team leader during that event, so I would not write him off too quickly.
-So my take away,
Ristolainen, Rasmus for 2020 1st round pick not enough for Ristolainen
Sheary, Conor for Perreault, Mathieu I would rather have Sheary
Thompson, Tage for Vesalainen, Kristian too much for Thompson right now, but ask me how I feel in January.
Both teams would say no. Betterall is very happy with his defense depth, and Cheveldayoff likes to fleece other GM’s (see DATM) and would probably not want to trade away his first round pick.
Of course this is my opinion and we all know we all have our opinions and we all have our but whole.
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Oct. 10, 2019 at 12:17 p.m.
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A few observations:
-Ristolainen manages to play 24 minutes a night for 4 different head coaches, my take away is the person whose job is on the line and his success is determined by the players on the ice, all value Ristolainen more than any other defenseman on the roster.
-The last 4 years (including this year), Perreault (46 goals 117 pts) and Sheary (5 goals 120 pts) each played 221 games, neither PK’s, Sheary has a slight edge with more ice time last year but the two previous years the TOI are about the same, so who is more valuable? BTW, I would rather have 27 yo Sheary @ $3KK than 32 (in Jan 2020) yo Perreault @ $4KK (but I do love his name).
-The Blues rushed Thompson to NHL, and unfortunately the Sabres as well, Big players take longer to develop. In his last 12 AHL games he has 10 goals, he bulked up over the summer, he dominated the french connection 3 on 3, he was voted the team leader during that event, so I would not write him off too quickly.
-So my take away,
Ristolainen, Rasmus for 2020 1st round pick not enough for Ristolainen
Sheary, Conor for Perreault, Mathieu I would rather have Sheary
Thompson, Tage for Vesalainen, Kristian too much for Thompson right now, but ask me how I feel in January.
Both teams would say no. Betterall is very happy with his defense depth, and Cheveldayoff likes to fleece other GM’s (see DATM) and would probably not want to trade away his first round pick.
Of course this is my opinion and we all know we all have our opinions and we all have our but whole.


Bottom line I wouldn’t be moving Vesalainen. To be completely honest, I really don’t want ristolainen. The guy should be moved up to forward lol, he was what -41 last year? I honestly would rather wpg not even consider a risto trade and just let their young guys develop.
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Oct. 10, 2019 at 12:19 p.m.
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Bottom line I wouldn’t be moving Vesalainen. To be completely honest, I really don’t want ristolainen. The guy should be moved up to forward lol, he was what -41 last year? I honestly would rather wpg not even consider a risto trade and just let their young guys develop.


Yeah if im looking at it from the 2 sides, its a bigger loss for Winnipeg than Buffalo. This would be a desperation attempt by Winnipeg that would fail rather quickly
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Oct. 10, 2019 at 12:44 p.m.
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I am bemused, I said both teams would say no, but I am getting push back emphasizing that the Jets would say no, but make appear that I think they should make the trade! I wonder what I need to do to say that I agree with people?

Quoting: tsyls
Bottom line I wouldn’t be moving Vesalainen. To be completely honest, I really don’t want ristolainen. The guy should be moved up to forward lol, he was what -41 last year? I honestly would rather wpg not even consider a risto trade and just let their young guys develop.


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Yeah if im looking at it from the 2 sides, its a bigger loss for Winnipeg than Buffalo. This would be a desperation attempt by Winnipeg that would fail rather quickly

Actually it is potentially a big loss for the Sabres, let's presume Sheary and Perreault is more or less a wash.
We know Ristolainen can score 40 pts a year, we do not know if the player taken in the first or if Vesalainen will ever play in the NHL.
So Buffalo is actually taking the bigger risk in this trade.
But as I said, neither team will make this trade, so let's agree to that even though we have different reasons.
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