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(OTT/NYR) - Ebert for Namestnikov

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Oct 7, 2019 at 9:55
#26
rangersandislesfan
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Why did we move Namestnikov? His contract is up after the year and because of the contract we got DeAngelo signed to we don't need the cap space right now.
Oct 7, 2019 at 10:09
#27
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Edited Oct 8, 2019 at 12:46
Trade works well for both teams:

Senators can showcase Vlad and give him bigger minutes that the Rangers couldn’t. This will boost his value and they can flip him at the deadline for 2020 picks

Rangers get needed cap space AND a roster spot to bring up Chytil or Kravstov ASAP. They take lesser value to make the trade happen now but getting the kids ice time is the most important thing
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Oct 7, 2019 at 10:11
#28
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The benefit of having $35M+ in cap space. OTT should have a nice stockpile of picks/prospects in the cupboard after this season. Maybe even a 1st overall...
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Oct 7, 2019 at 10:14
#29
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Senators win but I mean why, Their not gonna make the playoffs and I mean Namestnikov is only good if he has good line mates. At best he scores 25 goals so I guess its worth the risk, but the 4th rounder could haunt them if hey draft like a Jamie Benn type.
Oct 7, 2019 at 10:39
#30
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They'll prop him up and flip him. I'd be shocked if he was on the Sens roster after the trade deadline.
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:21
#31
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Ottawa got better here but they're still not making the playoffs IMO.
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:36
#32
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Senators win but I mean why, Their not gonna make the playoffs and I mean Namestnikov is only good if he has good line mates. At best he scores 25 goals so I guess its worth the risk, but the 4th rounder could haunt them if hey draft like a Jamie Benn type.


There's a strong chance by the end of it they flip him for a 3rd or something, making the trade Ebert and a 4th for a 3rd.

Also if you are afraid of trading a 4th round pick because it might be the next Jamie Benn, you may as well never make a trade ever. The reason it's so noteworthy that he was a 4th round pick is because of how rare it is to find players that good so late in the draft. If a 4th-7th round pick plays any games in the NHL that's considered a win
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:38
#33
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Ottawa got better here but they're still not making the playoffs IMO.


They could have added three Vlad Namestnikovs and it wouldn't affect their playoff odds. Play offs were never in the conversation. It's all about what they can flip him for in a few months.
Oct 8, 2019 at 6:33
#34
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Senators win but I mean why, Their not gonna make the playoffs and I mean Namestnikov is only good if he has good line mates. At best he scores 25 goals so I guess its worth the risk, but the 4th rounder could haunt them if hey draft like a Jamie Benn type.


And what are the odds of drafting a Benn type? Slim to none?
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:17
#35
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Smart move by the Senators. Namestnikov is a solid middle six player that's versatile enough to play all three forward positions. He's exactly the player a rebuilding team can use to showcase and flip for increased value near the deadline while their prospects play top line minutes in the minors. He's even young enough that they could keep him around to be a veteran presence in the lineup if he fits in well in Ottawa.

The Rangers open up a lineup spot for one of their NHL ready youngsters this season and have a chance to win the trade if they hit a home run with the fourth rounder. I'd say it looks like a win-win for both teams.
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:27
#36
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I feel like a lot of the people saying the Sens won this trade haven't watched Names play recently or think of him with the Lightning, with Stamkos and Kucherov as linemates...

Names has been consistently bad for the Rangers ever since they got him. Plugging him into the 2nd line of the Sens might get him a couple more points, but any GM would be a fool to ignore his recent history. If he goes to a contender, he'll be bottom 6 again and produce nothing, while being ok on the defensive side of the puck.

Honestly, I'm surprised the Rangers didn't have to give away an incentive pick to be rid of Names. For that reason alone, the Rangers won this trade.
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Oct 8, 2019 at 12:31
#37
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why did we move Namestnikov? His contract is up after the year and because of the contract we got DeAngelo signed to we don't need the cap space right now.


Gives us some more flexibility cap wise for this season. Now we can give his roster spot to someone better and more deserving, rather than having to showcase Names, who was brutal so far (and demoted to the 4th line/bench in both games).

Rangers management has set playoffs as the goal for this season. Names was not making this team better.
Oct 8, 2019 at 2:52
#38
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Don't sleep on this Ebert kid. He's got some good offensive abilities from the back end. He could be getting some minutes this year in the NHL
Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13
#39
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Nice move Gorton, and now let's get rid of Brendan Smith.
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Oct 9, 2019 at 1:52
#40
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Quoting: niong108
Nice move Gorton, and now let's get rid of Brendan Smith.


And Strome, please god
Oct 10, 2019 at 1:20
#41
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Interesting deal made for a team looking to tank.
Oct 29, 2019 at 6:19
#42
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9GP / 4G / 3A / 7Pts

Not a bad start to his year in Ottawa. Wonder why things didn't work with the Rangers.
Oct 29, 2019 at 8:47
#43
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Quoting: ON3M4N
9GP / 4G / 3A / 7Pts

Not a bad start to his year in Ottawa. Wonder why things didn't work with the Rangers.


He was always a good player. The full season he played with the Rangers, they simply didn't fit his play style. Can't expect a pure offensive player to strive in a pure defensive team.
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Oct 30, 2019 at 11:45
#44
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I sometimes wish i was a team pro scout/Ast GM. I would literally make someone look so smart. Been clamoring for someone to take a chance on this kid for a while. It was basically a low risk, moderate reward type player.
 
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