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JT Miller 4 points in opener

Created by: BOLTLOVER1
Initial Creation Date: Oct 10, 2019
Published: Oct 10 at 6:23 am
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Team Explanation
JT Miller had 4 points in home opener for Vancouver .. wouldn't a 6ft plus 200 lb plus forward who can play both center and forward at any line in the top 9 be very useful for Tampa? Oh wait he can play special teams also and on a good LT contract for a 25 year old .. ugh

While I do like the return we got, let's make no mistake on why that trade occurred.. Tampa management gave over market NTC clause contracts to a bunch of role playing shrimps .. with Gourde the most puzzling after less than 50 career points for a 27 year old rookie .. what we are seeing already in 3 games .. continuing trend of end of last year and historic Columbus sweep.. makes this all the more appalling

Time to wake up and make moves that help your team; not just moves to manage a Cap problem you created
Trades
TBL
  1. Jankowski, Mark
  2. Frolík, Michael
Additional Details:
Top 9 players for Tampa on last year of contracts .. brings size and some experience
CGY
  1. Johnson, Tyler
Additional Details:
Tiny Tim from area and LT contract .. fits more culturally in Calgary and WESTERN conference .. this also saves Calgary 1M or so in Cap. If Johnson doesn't want to go then send him to Syracuse and then Seattle .. enough if enough with the shrimps
Buyouts
  • Matthew Carle: $1,833,333
  • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
Buried
  • Mike Condon: $1,325,000 ($2,400,000)
  • Louis Domingue: $75,000 ($1,150,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TBL
VAN
TBL
TBL
TBL
DET
TBL
OTT
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$80,748,331$0$1,362,500$751,669
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TBL
Killorn, Alex
$4,450,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
$8,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TBL
Point, Brayden
$6,750,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
$5,300,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
$728,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
$1,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
$5,166,666
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 6
CGY
Frolík, Michael
$4,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
$728,333
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Verhaeghe, Carter
$700,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
CGY
Jankowski, Mark
$1,675,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TBL
Hedman, Victor
$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
TBL
Shattenkirk, Kevin
$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
TBL
Rutta, Jan
$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
$1,300,000
G
UFA - 2
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Witkowski, Luke
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
TBL
Cernak, Erik
$697,500
RD
RFA - 1
TBL
Walcott, Daniel
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Oct 10 at 6:30
#1
BiscuitBakesHotTaeks
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,202
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JTM has always been a good player. He was buried in the lineup in TB.

Having to trade him away is the price you pay for resigning and giving NTC to every player worth a damn over the past 5 years. Maybe next time give TJ a 3 year deal not a 7 year deal
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Oct 10 at 6:49
#2
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BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,537
Likes: 255
Funny how you usually overpay for outside free agents coming in to an organization .. Tampa the opposite .. overpay home grown mediocre players to prevent free agents to make your team better... you are forced to do budget moves like Maroon and Shatterkirk .. moves I like BTW but there is no other options cause of internal shrimp overpayment
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Oct 10 at 7:10
#3
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,612
Likes: 601
God im so glad i took Miller in the last round of both of my fantasy drafts this year. Really underrated player.

On another note, for the trade, due to tampa being so close to the contract cap you will have to add in an AHL player/prospect or 2 (flames have room). Would Spencer be available? Otherwise love the trade, TyJo would/should fit so nicely with tkachuks line
Oct 10 at 9:28
#4
exo2769
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 4,934
Likes: 1,205
Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Funny how you usually overpay for outside free agents coming in to an organization .. Tampa the opposite .. overpay home grown mediocre players to prevent free agents to make your team better... you are forced to do budget moves like Maroon and Shatterkirk .. moves I like BTW but there is no other options cause of internal shrimp overpayment


Very interesting! I think Bowman does that to a certain extent too. Seabrook, Bickell, and even a few lower contracts like Panik.
Oct 10 at 9:39
#5
best poster
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 683
Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Funny how you usually overpay for outside free agents coming in to an organization .. Tampa the opposite .. overpay home grown mediocre players to prevent free agents to make your team better... you are forced to do budget moves like Maroon and Shatterkirk .. moves I like BTW but there is no other options cause of internal shrimp overpayment


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Oct 10 at 1:51
#6
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 70
Likes: 18
It was one game for Miller, let's see how his whole season goes. I wish Tampa had kept him as well and traded Gourde, but he was never going to get the top 6 minutes consistently that he deserved bc of both his own inconsistent play and bc Cooper doesn't know how to lead this team effectively. Johnson isn't waiving and we are never "burying him in Syracuse" as has been suggested multiple times by one person if a guy won't waive his ntc. Johnson may be lost to the expansion draft, but until then don't see him leaving Tampa. Gourde, Killorn and Palat all got fair contracts when they signed them and in order to get them to take those numbers, ntc's were added. Gourde may be a few hundred k overpaid, but nothing outrageous. It's the tradeoff for getting players on deals less than they would've received from other teams.
Oct 10 at 1:54
#7
Thread Starter
BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,537
Likes: 255
Quoting: JTBF81
It was one game for Miller, let's see how his whole season goes. I wish Tampa had kept him as well and traded Gourde, but he was never going to get the top 6 minutes consistently that he deserved bc of both his own inconsistent play and bc Cooper doesn't know how to lead this team effectively. Johnson isn't waiving and we are never "burying him in Syracuse" as has been suggested multiple times by one person if a guy won't waive his ntc. Johnson may be lost to the expansion draft, but until then don't see him leaving Tampa. Gourde, Killorn and Palat all got fair contracts when they signed them and in order to get them to take those numbers, ntc's were added. Gourde may be a few hundred k overpaid, but nothing outrageous. It's the tradeoff for getting players on deals less than they would've received from other teams.


Wow .. I nominate you King of Disneyland .. I just hope you are young and don't work with heavy machinery
Oct 10 at 2:11
#8
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 70
Likes: 18
Your opinions are always good for a laugh on here Boltlover, since you spout the same hilarity everytime you post in any thread. You get back to us when any of your so called "overpaid internal shrimps" are buried in Syracuse or waive NTC's to go somewhere less appealing this season. Maybe next offseason at best and even then only Killorn is likely getting traded.
Oct 10 at 5:21
#9
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BOLT LOVER
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,537
Likes: 255
Sorry Mr. Disneyland .. I feel bad for fans who just are 100% fans regardless of outcome .. I puke on that thought some life advice for you.. life is not an intramural sport .. dont like the game; change the friggen game
 
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