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Thoughts on this Selling AGM

Created by: Wqrrior
Initial Creation Date: Oct 11, 2019
Published: Oct 11 at 7:30 pm
Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fleury, Haydn2$975,000
Grundström, Carl3$1,750,000
Walker, Sean1$800,000
Wagner, Austin2$900,000
Rodrigues, Evan2$1,750,000
MacDermid, Kurtis1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kassian, Zack1$1,500,000
Trades
LAK
  1. Reimer, James
  2. Fleury, Haydn [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Quick, Jonathan ($800,000 retained)
LAK
  1. Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
    Rights to Tyler Toffoli, prior to 2019 TDL
    LAK
    1. Staal, Marc
    NYR
    1. Carter, Jeff
    Buyouts
    • Dion Phaneuf: $4,062,500
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Jonathan Quick: $800,000 (13.79%)
    Termination Fees
    • Mike Richards: $700,000
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    CAR
    LAK
    CGY
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    2021
    LAK
    LAK
    BUF
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    2022
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    LAK
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$83,500,000$72,881,667$0$2,307,500$10,618,333
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    LAK
    Iafallo, Alex
    $2,425,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Kopitar, Anze
    $10,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    LAK
    Brown, Dustin
    $5,875,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    LAK
    Kovalchuk, Ilya
    $6,250,000
    LW, RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Kempe, Adrian
    $2,000,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Rodrigues, Evan
    $1,750,000
    C, LW
    RFA
    LAK
    Grundström, Carl
    $1,750,000
    LW
    RFA
    LAK
    Kupari, Rasmus
    $894,167
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Kassian, Zack
    $1,500,000
    RW
    UFA
    LAK
    Wagner, Austin
    $900,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
    LAK
    Anderson-Dolan, Jaret
    $747,500
    C
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    Amadio, Michael
    $700,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    LAK
    Björnfot, Tobias
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    Doughty, Drew
    $11,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    LAK
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Fleury, Haydn
    $975,000
    LD
    RFA
    LAK
    Martinez, Alec
    $4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Reimer, James
    $3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    NYR
    Staal, Marc
    $5,700,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Walker, Sean
    $800,000
    RD
    RFA
    LAK
    Petersen, Cal
    $858,333
    G
    UFA - 2
    LAK
    Roy, Matt
    $700,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    LAK
    MacDermid, Kurtis
    $700,000
    RD
    RFA
    LAK
    Vilardi, Gabriel
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 2
    LAK
    Lizotte, Blake
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 1

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    Oct 11 at 7:36
    #1
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Makes no sense for the Canes
    Oct 11 at 7:42
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    Wqrrior
    Joined: Feb 2019
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Makes no sense for the Canes


    I am still optimistic on Quick. I am in no way a kings fan, rather the kings are one of my more disliked teams. Quick though has long been one of my favorite goalies, and I believe he is an example of someone who can really become of something on another team. Mrazek has been alright, but him and quick could be a very strong tandem. If quick can't handle the 60 games of old, why not jobshare him to get his numbers up again? Carolina can dump a bad contract in Reimer and give up hardly anything for what could be a turnaround steal.
    Oct 11 at 8:13
    #3
    Shibbal18
    Joined: Jan 2016
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    If Fleury is nothing more than a bottom pair Dman in Carolinas eyes, i think theyd consider it, but if they still think he's a top 4 guy they pass
    Oct 11 at 8:13
    #4
    The evil stats guy
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    I am still optimistic on Quick. I am in no way a kings fan, rather the kings are one of my more disliked teams. Quick though has long been one of my favorite goalies, and I believe he is an example of someone who can really become of something on another team. Mrazek has been alright, but him and quick could be a very strong tandem. If quick can't handle the 60 games of old, why not jobshare him to get his numbers up again? Carolina can dump a bad contract in Reimer and give up hardly anything for what could be a turnaround steal.


    Believe me, there is no reason to be optimistic about Quick. The underlying #'s are wose than the normal stats and he gets paid way too much for 4 more years.
    Also Reimer has lowkey been good in CAR so far.
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    Oct 11 at 8:31
    #5
    Thread Starter
    Wqrrior
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    Quoting: Random2152
    Believe me, there is no reason to be optimistic about Quick. The underlying #'s are wose than the normal stats and he gets paid way too much for 4 more years.
    Also Reimer has lowkey been good in CAR so far.
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    What range does that chart consider?
    Also seeing Pekka Rinne in the "worse" half of that chart is raising an eyebrow for sure.
    Oct 11 at 8:33
    #6
    The evil stats guy
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    What range does that chart consider?
    Also seeing Pekka Rinne in the "worse" half of that chart is raising an eyebrow for sure.


    There are a lot of overrated goalies in this league. These results are for this year so far (so the usual sample size warning) but Quick has been down there for a few years now.
    Rinne has not been good so far.
    Feel free to look through his work yourself: https://twitter.com/ChartingHockey
    Oct 11 at 8:36
    #7
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    Wqrrior
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    Quoting: Random2152
    There are a lot of overrated goalies in this league. These results are for this year so far (so the usual sample size warning) but Quick has been down there for a few years now.
    Rinne has not been good so far.


    Okay. I thought it was last year.
    Are you able to generate a chart such as that from last year for a more accurate look? If not, that's alright, I do get what you are trying to say.
    Oct 11 at 8:38
    #8
    The evil stats guy
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    Okay. I thought it was last year.
    Are you able to generate a chart such as that from last year for a more accurate look? If not, that's alright, I do get what you are trying to say.


    Not sure. Might be a pay only feature. Feel free to look for yourslef.
    https://twitter.com/ChartingHockey
    https://public.tableau.com/profile/sean.tierney#!/
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    Oct 11 at 8:53
    #9
    The evil stats guy
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    Okay. I thought it was last year.
    Are you able to generate a chart such as that from last year for a more accurate look? If not, that's alright, I do get what you are trying to say.


    Okay so I did some digging and I found this. I recognise it from the end last year, but I cant find an exact date on it.
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    Oct 11 at 9:04
    #10
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    Wqrrior
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    Quoting: Random2152
    Okay so I did some digging and I found this. I recognise it from the end last year, but I cant find an exact date on it.
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    That chart makes me wonder why Keith Kinkaid has been so hyped over recent times.... he seems to be a below average backup rather than a high end one. I also am surprised by the performance of linus ullmark. I thought he would become a starter with time.
    Oct 16 at 9:01
    #11
    BiscuitBakesHotTaeks
    Joined: Apr 2018
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    Interesting return for Toffoli. When thinking of TT, I think the return will be similar to Evander Kane: a B prospect, a late pick, and a 2nd that turns into a 1st if the player is resigned.
    ERod has not been great so far this season, but with Larsson and Girgensons both UFA this year, BUF will need someone that can play with speed on the 4th line.
    Oct 16 at 3:24
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    Wqrrior
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    Quoting: BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
    Interesting return for Toffoli. When thinking of TT, I think the return will be similar to Evander Kane: a B prospect, a late pick, and a 2nd that turns into a 1st if the player is resigned.
    ERod has not been great so far this season, but with Larsson and Girgensons both UFA this year, BUF will need someone that can play with speed on the 4th line.


    Toffoli and Kane aren't nearly on the same level. Toffoli won't get more than the value of a late round first.
     
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