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Leafs - Ducks Manson

Created by: RTommy
Initial Creation Date: Oct 12, 2019
Published: Oct 12 at 11:47 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. Jones, Max
ANA
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Bracco, Jeremy
  4. Ceci, Cody
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,210,199$0$0$1,289,801
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
ANA
Jones, Max
$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
ANA
Manson, Josh
$4,100,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Shore, Nick
$750,000
C
UFA - 1

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Oct 12 at 12:06
#1
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,184
Likes: 671
I'm not that high on Bracco, reminds me of Sprong a bit, I'll take him as payment for taking Ceci, then you're giving up a good young middle 6 F and a now overrated d spec Lilja for a legit top pairing Rd from a team that needs RD (making his value to them even higher) on a great contract and who is currently 3-1... Will they stay that way... Probably not, but I think they could be competitive this year, making Manson even less likely to be traded, and he's young enough that even if they decide to rebuild he'll still be on his prime by the time they come out of it
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Oct 12 at 12:15
#2
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 606
Likes: 122
So obvs the Leafs would love this but the Ducks say no.

They need a strong RHD and thats what Manson is for them. The pieces coming back arent bad but the value isnt there

Manson > Lil and Kap
Jones = Bracco and Ceci
Jones
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Oct 12 at 12:39
#3
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 10,565
Likes: 3,150
Manson was not at all good last season and wasn't really on anyones radar the season before and now he's an all-star worth a kings ransom. This is a short sighted trade and one that doesn't make much sense for TO.
leaflet liked this.
Oct 12 at 1:10
#4
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 94
Likes: 10
I do this trade but I don't think the Ducks would. Anyways nothing matters until Babcock's fired
Oct 12 at 1:45
#5
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 750
Quoting: LoganOllivier
Manson was not at all good last season and wasn't really on anyones radar the season before and now he's an all-star worth a kings ransom. This is a short sighted trade and one that doesn't make much sense for TO.


Were talking about the same Manson here right? The one that was +34 2 years ago and isnt rven a points producing Dman. Just because he wasnt taken in tour fantasy league doesnt mean he isnt a top pairing partner defense. Also what "kings ransom" are you refering to?
OldNYIfan liked this.
Oct 12 at 3:17
#6
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,330
Likes: 3,037
Anaheim and Toronto suffer from the same defect: softness at RD. Here's who the Ducks have on the right side:

Josh Manson
Cam Fowler (playing on his off side)
Brendan Guhle (playing on his off side)
Michael Del Zotto (playing on his off side)
Korbinian Holzer (whom Toronto themselves deemed expendable years ago)

Whatever your opinion of his ability is, Manson is the sole NHL-quality right-handed defenseman Anaheim has, and there's no one in the system (unlike Toronto, who have at least four such prospects). Moreover, again, whatever your opinion of his quality is, Manson is better than Ceci is now and Liljegren is ever likely to be. And Anaheim has a wealth of young wingers, so the Ducks don't need Kapanen or Bracco, particularly since Jones may turn out to be better than Bracco.

In short, this is a quick No from Anaheim.
Oct 12 at 3:44
#7
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 10,565
Likes: 3,150
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Were talking about the same Manson here right? The one that was +34 2 years ago and isnt rven a points producing Dman. Just because he wasnt taken in tour fantasy league doesnt mean he isnt a top pairing partner defense. Also what "kings ransom" are you refering to?


Oh yeah that one season where he did good playing with a superior partner and now he's a legit #1. Nope he is just another overblown good player. He's good but he has really 1 season to throw back too and it was 2 seasons ago.
Oct 12 at 9:46
#8
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 16,444
Likes: 1,864
Too bad Manson isn't available, And those pieces don't get him any ways. Start with Nylander at least.
 
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