How good was Grigorenko

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Created by: JayTea

Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2019

Published: Oct. 12, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Michael Russo from the Athletic speculated in a recent Q&A that it's possible the Wild might pursue Mikhail Grigorenko next season to help Kirill Kaprizov with his transition over to the NHL since they're currently linemates on CSKA Moscow. Grigorenko never seemed to get anything going here in the US, but does anyone have any thoughts on why? His point total in his first year in the KHL after leaving Colorado wasn't anything special, but since he's been playing with Kaprizov the last 2 years he's pretty much been a PPG player in the KHL. I'm not suggesting he'd do that in the NHL because the talent level is different, but seems like a low risk option for the Wild to get a center and help Kaprizov get started in the NHL.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill		2	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kunin, Luke	2	$2,000,000
Greenway, Jordan	3	$2,250,000
Sturm, Nico	2	$1,500,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Grigorenko, Mikhail		1	$2,000,000

Buyouts

Victor Rask: $1,333,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,000,000	$73,741,091	$0	$0	$9,258,909

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Staal, Eric $1,625,000$1,625,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1	Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 4
Fiala, Kevin $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Grigorenko, Mikhail $2,000,000$2,000,000	Kaprizov, Kirill $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 1
Parise, Zach $7,538,462$7,538,462 LW NMC UFA - 5	Kunin, Luke $2,000,000$2,000,000 RW, C RFA - 2
Foligno, Marcus $2,875,000$2,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Eriksson Ek, Joel $1,487,500$1,487,500 C UFA - 1	Donato, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1
		Hartman, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Suter, Ryan $7,538,462$7,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 5	Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Dubnyk, Devan $2,166,667$2,166,667 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Brodin, Jonas $4,166,667$4,166,667 LD NMC UFA - 1	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 7	Stalock, Alex $785,000$785,000 G UFA - 2
Hunt, Brad $700,000$700,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Pateryn, Greg $2,250,000$2,250,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Greenway, Jordan $2,250,000$2,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Sturm, Nico $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 2
Seeler, Nick $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Oct. 12, 2019 at 10:55 p.m.

NR1203

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Skilled but didn't pan out. Worth a 2nd chance.

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Oct. 13, 2019 at 12:11 a.m.

coga16

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His issue was always his hockey iq, processed the game too slow, would have mental lasps bc of it.

Solid when engaged and focused, a complete liability if he disengages. Top 6 hands, bottom 6 iq

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Oct. 13, 2019 at 12:37 a.m.

wabit

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He's a wing in the KHL, not a center. Another LHS wing that isn't clearly better than anyone on the roster isn't what the Wild need to add.

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Oct. 13, 2019 at 8:20 a.m.

JayTea

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Quoting: wabit

He's a wing in the KHL, not a center. Another LHS wing that isn't clearly better than anyone on the roster isn't what the Wild need to add.

Ah, didn't realize he played wing in the KHL.

Oct. 13, 2019 at 9:16 a.m.

TanSor

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Quoting: wabit

He's a wing in the KHL, not a center. Another LHS wing that isn't clearly better than anyone on the roster isn't what the Wild need to add.

That isn't true. I've been watching CSKA and he has centered Kaprizov every game I've seen (about 20 counting the ones I saw last year). He might have played wing in the past, but it seems like he's a full-time center now.

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Oct. 13, 2019 at 10:48 a.m.

wabit

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Quoting: TanSor

Vey is the center on that line.

Oct. 13, 2019 at 1:29 p.m.

TanSor

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Quoting: wabit

Vey is the center on that line.

CSKA's coach has played Vey with Kaprizov and Grigorenko, but from what I've seen he was the RW on that line and not the center.

Oct. 13, 2019 at 1:42 p.m.

BoredWildFan

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Quoting: TanSor

CSKA's coach has played Vey with Kaprizov and Grigorenko, but from what I've seen he was the RW on that line and not the center.

Bring the whole damn line over. Can't hurt.

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Oct. 13, 2019 at 3:37 p.m.

wabit

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Quoting: TanSor

CSKA's coach has played Vey with Kaprizov and Grigorenko, but from what I've seen he was the RW on that line and not the center.

Vey has over 200 FOs taken; which is top on the team. Grigorenko has 42; which is 6th on the team. Vey wins 56% and Grigorenko wins 71%. Taking FO's don't necessarily mean that you're a center, but when if Grigorenko was winning FOs at that high of a % then why would you have a wing taking them instead of him?

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Oct. 13, 2019 at 11:24 p.m.

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TanSor

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Quoting: wabit

Where are you getting that stat? I didn't know the KHL tracked faceoffs, I'd love to look at that data. Im just telling you what I saw, doesn't mean he hasn't played the wing but the games I watched he was taking center responsibilities.

Oct. 13, 2019 at 11:26 p.m.

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TanSor

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Quoting: BoredWildFan

Bring the whole damn line over. Can't hurt.

Ha, the Minnesota CSKA Moscows. Has a nice ring to it...

Oct. 14, 2019 at 12:19 a.m.

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wabit

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Quoting: TanSor

KHL website

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