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Make Me an Offer

Created by: MNBassman
Initial Creation Date: Oct 13, 2019
Published: Oct 13 at 3:59 pm
Team: 2019-20 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
20 games from now, if the Wild still suck, GM Bill Guerin will have some tough decisions to make... These are the 4 players I would shop first, if it becomes obvious a rebuild is the only plan that makes sense.
What would you offer from your favorite team to acquire any of these guys?
Side note: I don’t want to hear any, “if you trade Zuccarello, you will never attract another UFA again,” crap...because I don’t care. By the time this team is relevant again, that will be old news!
Trades
MIN
    ANA
    1. Zuccarello, Mats
    2. Donato, Ryan
    3. Zucker, Jason
    4. Spurgeon, Jared
    MIN
      ARI
      1. Staal, Eric
      2. Greenway, Jordan
      3. Fiala, Kevin
      4. Dubnyk, Devan
      5. Parise, Zach
      6. Suter, Ryan
      Additional Details:
      Making the exodus complete.
      Buyouts
      • Tyler Ennis: $1,216,667
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2020
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      2021
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      2022
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      MIN
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      14$81,500,000$34,073,334$0$732,500$47,426,666
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      MIN
      Foligno, Marcus
      $2,875,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Koivu, Mikko
      $5,500,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      MIN
      Kunin, Luke
      $925,000
      RW, C
      RFA - 1
      MIN
      Hartman, Ryan
      $1,900,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      MIN
      Eriksson Ek, Joel
      $1,487,500
      C
      RFA - 2
      MIN
      Shaw, Mason
      $792,500
      C
      RFA - 2
      MIN
      Rask, Victor
      $4,000,000
      C
      UFA - 3
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      MIN
      Brodin, Jonas
      $4,166,667
      LD
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Dumba, Matt
      $6,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 4
      MIN
      Stalock, Alex
      $785,000
      G
      UFA - 3
      MIN
      Soucy, Carson
      $750,000
      D
      RFA - 1
      MIN
      Pateryn, Greg
      $2,250,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Seeler, Nick
      $725,000
      LD
      UFA - 2
      MIN
      Hunt, Brad
      $700,000
      RD
      UFA - 2

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      Oct 13 at 4:03
      #1
      Ragsandboltsfan
      Joined: Nov 2017
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      Donato over foligno or hartman?
      Oct 13 at 4:04
      #2
      Jetsfan
      Joined: Sep 2017
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      Connor, Pionk and a 2nd for Dumba and Zucker
      Oct 13 at 4:09
      #3
      Joined: Dec 2016
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      Puljuarvi 2021 1st ganger for Zucker
      Oct 13 at 4:17
      #4
      OldNYIfan
      Joined: Jun 2018
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      Rakell (gulp!) and Sherwood or Sprong (all right-handed) for Donato and Spurgeon.

      Kapanen, a first and a RhD prospect for Spurgeon. (But that requires another move by Toronto to get under the cap.)
      Oct 13 at 4:18
      #5
      LongtimeLeafsufferer
      Joined: Jul 2015
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      Zuccarello...untradeable. 32 years with the multi years left at 6m. He might be the Loui Ericsson signing of the year.
      Spurgeon...a tough trade with his new contract. Big $$ and term might not be as attractive as previous year Money has to be coming back to the Wild. I might have said Nylander before the season, but Willie looks good and might be 7m bargain in the future.
      Zucker, he's nice but 5.5m nice?
      Donato. He's 23 if he hasn't shown much so far, is he ever?
      Sorry Bassman, I just don't see the Wild being able to dump much in cap, so they can reset. Just too many teams at their own cap, to take on those guys.
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      Oct 13 at 4:20
      #6
      DeBrincat > Kane
      Joined: Jul 2018
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      Quoting: Jetman
      Connor, Pionk and a 2nd for Dumba and Zucker


      zucker > connor
      dumba > pionk + 2nd

      why would minnesota do that lmfao
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      Oct 13 at 4:27
      #7
      GM Hockeysaurus Rex
      Joined: Jul 2016
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      Donato should be offered to Edmonton for like Dman and pick. Donato-RNH would be great duo.
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      Oct 13 at 5:09
      #8
      Joined: Mar 2019
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      Quoting: palhal
      Sorry Bassman, I just don't see the Wild being able to dump much in cap, so they can reset. Just too many teams at their own cap, to take on those guys.


      This is ultimately the main challenge they'll face, unless they're taking back a bad contract to help clear cap space for the other team. So many teams expected the cap to be higher and made decisions accordingly and now not many teams have cap and the ones that do won't be looking to add.
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      Oct 13 at 6:01
      #9
      Joined: Mar 2018
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      Shouldn’t donato be apart of your up and coming team?
      Oct 13 at 9:38
      #10
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
      Joined: May 2015
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      Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
      Donato over foligno or hartman?


      I would trade Donato 100 times before I would consider trading Foligno!
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      Oct 13 at 9:39
      #11
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: Jetman
      Connor, Pionk and a 2nd for Dumba and Zucker


      Dumba is not on my list.
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      Oct 13 at 9:39
      #12
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: Dylan1995
      Puljuarvi 2021 1st ganger for Zucker


      2020 1st and you have a deal.
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      Oct 13 at 9:45
      #13
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      Rakell (gulp!) and Sherwood or Sprong (all right-handed) for Donato and Spurgeon.

      Kapanen, a first and a RhD prospect for Spurgeon. (But that requires another move by Toronto to get under the cap.)


      I might even consider retaining on Spurgeon’s salary this year...if I like the RHD prospect. Any chance his initials are T.L.???
      Or, how about Spurgeon (1/2 retained rest of this season) and Donato for Kapanen, Lilligren, and your 2020 1st?
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      Oct 13 at 9:49
      #14
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: palhal
      Zuccarello...untradeable. 32 years with the multi years left at 6m. He might be the Loui Ericsson signing of the year.
      Spurgeon...a tough trade with his new contract. Big $$ and term might not be as attractive as previous year Money has to be coming back to the Wild. I might have said Nylander before the season, but Willie looks good and might be 7m bargain in the future.
      Zucker, he's nice but 5.5m nice?
      Donato. He's 23 if he hasn't shown much so far, is he ever?
      Sorry Bassman, I just don't see the Wild being able to dump much in cap, so they can reset. Just too many teams at their own cap, to take on those guys.


      Very, very intelligent and insightful analysis...and precisely why the Wild are so screwed!!
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      Oct 13 at 9:51
      #15
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: arafay
      Shouldn’t donato be apart of your up and coming team?


      Not if I ran the team!
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      Oct 13 at 10:41
      #16
      DeBrincat > Kane
      Joined: Jul 2018
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      Quoting: MNBassman
      I would trade Donato 100 times before I would consider trading Foligno!


      this is a huge W
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      Oct 13 at 11:44
      #17
      Joined: Jun 2017
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      With the way they've played, I'd honestly shop Fiala, Greenway, Staal, and Dubnyk as well. This team needs to be blown up.

      On a side note, I really want to see Byfield in forest green.
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      Oct 14 at 8:05
      #18
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: TanSor
      With the way they've played, I'd honestly shop Fiala, Greenway, Staal, and Dubnyk as well. This team needs to be blown up.

      On a side note, I really want to see Byfield in forest green.


      I agree . These 4 deserve to be shopped too.,

      Byfield is the player I covet too!
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      Oct 14 at 11:42
      #19
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      Quoting: MNBassman
      I agree . These 4 deserve to be shopped too.,

      Byfield is the player I covet too!


      Byfield, Stutzle, and Perfetti are the centers I like most based off the reading I've done about them, but there's some speculation that Stutzle and Perfetti might be better wingers in the NHL. It's not a great draft for centers it seems...
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      Oct 18 at 9:14
      #20
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      Quick question: does Suter have any game left? And also, if he's traded to a team and retires in 2-3 years... Is it a Roberto Luongo type of scenario where the Wild would have to pay a % of his salary?
      BC if you tell me he has game left + I have some insurance that I wouldn't have to be stuck with his contract... I may be interested if I'm Montreal.
      I'd say probably a pick + prospect + money coming back?
      Oct 18 at 4:12
      #21
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: Carlapin007
      Quick question: does Suter have any game left? And also, if he's traded to a team and retires in 2-3 years... Is it a Roberto Luongo type of scenario where the Wild would have to pay a % of his salary?
      BC if you tell me he has game left + I have some insurance that I wouldn't have to be stuck with his contract... I may be interested if I'm Montreal.
      I'd say probably a pick + prospect + money coming back?


      Suter has a lot of game left! It’s the Wild that would be punished with the penalty if he retires early, not the Habs.

      What’s your offer?
      Oct 18 at 4:16
      #22
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      senyshyn for donato straight up
      Oct 18 at 6:50
      #23
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: hanson493
      senyshyn for donato straight up


      No
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      Oct 21 at 1:36
      #24
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      Quoting: MNBassman
      Suter has a lot of game left! It’s the Wild that would be punished with the penalty if he retires early, not the Habs.

      What’s your offer?


      Yeah, just watched the 2 games Habs played against Wild... I think Suter becomes #2 in Mtl (after Petry)...

      So basically I would offer your choice of 1 of any active D between Chiarot/Reilley/Folin + your choice of 1 of any AHL prospect between Evans/Vejdemo/Ikonen/Ylonen + a draft pick (2nd Rounder if no salary retained/1st Rounder if $ retained).

      So that's a jersey filler + a B prospect + a First/2nd pick
      Oct 21 at 4:07
      #25
      Thread Starter
      MNBassman
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      Quoting: Carlapin007
      Yeah, just watched the 2 games Habs played against Wild... I think Suter becomes #2 in Mtl (after Petry)...

      So basically I would offer your choice of 1 of any active D between Chiarot/Reilley/Folin + your choice of 1 of any AHL prospect between Evans/Vejdemo/Ikonen/Ylonen + a draft pick (2nd Rounder if no salary retained/1st Rounder if $ retained).

      So that's a jersey filler + a B prospect + a First/2nd pick


      If that offer was for Parise or Zuccarello, I would jump all over it...but Suter would cost more than that. Maybe if the 1st had no conditions.
       
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