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Gallagher

Created by: dgfresh78
Initial Creation Date: Oct 16, 2019
Published: Oct 16 at 11:10 pm
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
MTL
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Riikola, Juuso
  3. Ölund, Linus
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. 2020 6th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Gudbranson, Erik
PIT
  1. Honka, Julius [Reserve List]
DAL
  1. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,856,625$132,500$3,700,000$4,643,375
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
$4,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 2
Honka, Julius
$900,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4

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Oct 17 at 12:26
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math731
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lol
Oct 17 at 12:26
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math731
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lol
Oct 17 at 2:24
#3
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Don't like the idea of signing Gallagher.
Unless you are a real impact player, I'm just no bringing a 5'9 guy on board.

I know he's a 30 goal guy. But I don't think he does that here.
Oct 17 at 3:18
#4
Joined: Jan 2017
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Foget abow diiiiiiiiiit!
Oct 17 at 6:34
#5
gregb569
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 680
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Quoting: pharrow
Don't like the idea of signing Gallagher.
Unless you are a real impact player, I'm just no bringing a 5'9 guy on board.

I know he's a 30 goal guy. But I don't think he does that here.


"Unless you are a real impact player, I'm just no bringing a 5'9 guy on board."???????
A 30 goal guy isn't a real impact guy????? you're brain dead
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Oct 17 at 9:18
#6
Hulk-a-mania
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 309
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Quoting: gregb569
"Unless you are a real impact player, I'm just no bringing a 5'9 guy on board."???????
A 30 goal guy isn't a real impact guy????? you're brain dead


Playing with the likes of Crosby and Malkin and Galchenuk reunited Gallagher would score 40 -50. That's fine MTL keeps him for sure anyhow on a great contract too. WOW!
Oct 17 at 9:27
#7
Jay27
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 836
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Quoting: pharrow
Don't like the idea of signing Gallagher.
Unless you are a real impact player, I'm just no bringing a 5'9 guy on board.

I know he's a 30 goal guy. But I don't think he does that here.


What are you stuck in 1999? Speed is king in the modern NHL, also Gally plays like he's the biggest guy on the ice. I hope he's a Hab for life.
Oct 17 at 9:36
#8
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 502
Likes: 86
LOL if you want Gally, it starts with a 1st or Poulin
Oct 17 at 9:41
#9
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,944
Likes: 756
Gallagher is along the Theo Fleury mold. Fleury was listed as 5'6 tears of joy More like 5'3.

Fleury is 51 years old... geeeeezzzz time flies. I remember a game where, while lining up for a faceoff, Fleury was whacking his stick at Lemiux's feet so Lemieux stepped on Fleury's stick and broke it. Fleury held it up to the ref like "WTF?" and the ref was like "Stop hitting him before the faceoff even happens". Good times...

Ugh, I'm old.
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Oct 17 at 9:57
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Quoting: pharrow
Don't like the idea of signing Gallagher.
Unless you are a real impact player, I'm just no bringing a 5'9 guy on board.

I know he's a 30 goal guy. But I don't think he does that here.


I’m gonna have to disagree with you there...Gallagher’s size shouldn’t matter in today’s NHL and he always plays big. On top of that this trade would give the lineup so much more balance with a speedy winger on every line. I think bergevin is crazy enough to bite on Hornqvist and that helps the Penguins cause even more. So if this were to come up in a trade negotiation the Penguins should take it and run.
Oct 17 at 10:39
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Quoting: Jay27
What are you stuck in 1999? Speed is king in the modern NHL, also Gally plays like he's the biggest guy on the ice. I hope he's a Hab for life.


that's not true at all. You have to be able to battle for a puck and small wingers become useless. We saw that with Sheary, when he slumped he couldn't even stick on the 4th line.
TB saw it last year got shoved all over the ice.
It's still a physical game.

Quoting: SCGLisme2
Playing with the likes of Crosby and Malkin and Galchenuk reunited Gallagher would score 40 -50. That's fine MTL keeps him for sure anyhow on a great contract too. WOW!


See I don't believe that at all. Malkin and Galchenuk is the exact reason this team brought in Tanev. Then needed a fast player who could battle on the boards and play the defensive role. Gallagher isn't going to do that. They need players like that on lines to go into the dirty areas. Play hard nosed and get the puck. Those are facts of life.

Quoting: dgfresh78
I’m gonna have to disagree with you there...Gallagher’s size shouldn’t matter in today’s NHL and he always plays big. On top of that this trade would give the lineup so much more balance with a speedy winger on every line. I think bergevin is crazy enough to bite on Hornqvist and that helps the Penguins cause even more. So if this were to come up in a trade negotiation the Penguins should take it and run.


I don't live in that pc world. Playing big means nothing, he's not, he doesn't have the strength. You put him on lines that already have shooters on it and what you end up with is an unbalanced line. Sid's got Jake, Malkin has AG. They need fast guys who can support and get the puck and help defensively. At no point does he go on one of those top two lines and rack up 30 goals. We already know Jake and Sid are going to get the majority on line 1, and on line 2 you are looking at Malkin and AG. That's why they brought him in. And you put him on that line and you got 3 guys who really don't play defense and won't retrieve the puck. That would be a cluster F and they would break that up in no time.

At most he'd get 3rd line minutes. He wouldn't really get offensive zone starts. He'd have a sort of defensive role to play on the 3rd line as the 1st and 2nd line are gonna get the vast majority or Ozone starts and that really isn't his role.

So I don't see him getting 30 goals here. In MTL he's one of their better offensive weapons. Here he isn't even top 3.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, I'm not saying the price is to high.
I'm saying it's not a good fit. The first line needs a bigger body player or at least one who can be physical considering both Crosby and Jake aren't really big players.
And the second line needs a guy who is disruptive and can get the puck.
Oct 21 at 1:44
#12
Hulk-a-mania
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 309
Likes: 57
Quoting: pharrow
that's not true at all. You have to be able to battle for a puck and small wingers become useless. We saw that with Sheary, when he slumped he couldn't even stick on the 4th line.
TB saw it last year got shoved all over the ice.
It's still a physical game.

See I don't believe that at all. Malkin and Galchenuk is the exact reason this team brought in Tanev. Then needed a fast player who could battle on the boards and play the defensive role. Gallagher isn't going to do that. They need players like that on lines to go into the dirty areas. Play hard nosed and get the puck. Those are facts of life.



I don't live in that pc world. Playing big means nothing, he's not, he doesn't have the strength. You put him on lines that already have shooters on it and what you end up with is an unbalanced line. Sid's got Jake, Malkin has AG. They need fast guys who can support and get the puck and help defensively. At no point does he go on one of those top two lines and rack up 30 goals. We already know Jake and Sid are going to get the majority on line 1, and on line 2 you are looking at Malkin and AG. That's why they brought him in. And you put him on that line and you got 3 guys who really don't play defense and won't retrieve the puck. That would be a cluster F and they would break that up in no time.

At most he'd get 3rd line minutes. He wouldn't really get offensive zone starts. He'd have a sort of defensive role to play on the 3rd line as the 1st and 2nd line are gonna get the vast majority or Ozone starts and that really isn't his role.

So I don't see him getting 30 goals here. In MTL he's one of their better offensive weapons. Here he isn't even top 3.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, I'm not saying the price is to high.
I'm saying it's not a good fit. The first line needs a bigger body player or at least one who can be physical considering both Crosby and Jake aren't really big players.
And the second line needs a guy who is disruptive and can get the puck.


I can't disagree with you more! Gally has proven time and time again that he can play in this league against the other teams top lines. His does go to the dirty areas in the corners and makes his office in front of the net where the battle for the puck and goals are going on. You obviously don't watch the Habs or you would know what kind of player he is, Heart and Soul of this team, one of the most consistent scorers and tough as nails. Doesn't back down from anything including Weber's slap shots which blew off his fingers not once but twice. He's also one of the stronger players in the league despite his size/height!
Galchenyuk even though I like him is not the player that will go into the corners and is often injured. Gally woud be on most teams 2nd line actually bumping Galchenyuk or as you didn't know they played well together in Montreal for a few seasons.
All in all the Habs say no, terrible trade for the Habs!
 
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