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Created by: jjkhairaELTE99
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2019
Published: Oct. 17, 2019
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lines are for when everyone is healthy (this season)

When season ends, oilers will have around 30mil to really sign nurse, benning, bear, kassian and whichever of the scraps that we signed this year that impresssed plus hall.

I can see Nurse getting something around 6 x 6.5M
Kassian would garner about $3mil x 3
$3-3.5mil to sign the scraps (bottom 6 that impressed)
Benning probably gets dealt by the deadline (in case he doesnt i see 2-3x 2.5ish?
Bear gets a 2-3yr bridge similar to what benning is making rn (1.5-1.9)
Person (if he impresses) 2yrs at nothing more than 1.5

After these signings, the oil will have about 12.5-9 mil to spare in order to sign hall to a deal. I see 9.5-10 mil x 5-6 (thinking he'd take a mil or so off to play with a prime mcdavid on a team finally in the right direction cause its clear hall wants to win)

With guys like yamo, benson and bouchard having an added year in the minors plus starett coming to his own ( becoming a cheap backup), Next year the oilers should make the playoffs (and possibly get to 3rd rd+ if a trade to move out koskinen and get grab Lehner from FA can be done)
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EDM
  1. Hall, Taylor
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NJD)
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3RD turns to 2nd if hall doesnt resign or NJ make playoffs in 2021-22
NJD
  1. Jones, Caleb
  2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
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Oct. 17, 2019 at 12:16 p.m.
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Why would Hall want to go to Edmonton? On the way out he was shat on as the problem in Edmonton and it was his fault they had a losing culture and Lucic would be better anyway and blah blah blah
Oct. 17, 2019 at 12:23 p.m.
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This proposal is one that NJ would say yes to, but do the Oilers want to have 30 million tied up in 3 players if they were to sign Hall? They could sign Kreider or a guy like that for 3 mill less than Hall , and with the cap staring relatively the same next year that could be the difference between keeping Kassian and letting him walk as a UFA
Oct. 17, 2019 at 12:36 p.m.
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This proposal is one that NJ would say yes to, but do the Oilers want to have 30 million tied up in 3 players if they were to sign Hall? They could sign Kreider or a guy like that for 3 mill less than Hall , and with the cap staring relatively the same next year that could be the difference between keeping Kassian and letting him walk as a UFA


I doubt NJ is saying yes. They'd be in the same situation with RNH the next season as he has only two years left.

Mark Stone is a great comparable for any Hall trade. Bottom-6 player, A-Prospect and a 2nd round pick is a realistic demand.

In this case, maybe Sam Gagner, Jujhar Khaira, Evan Bouchard and a 2020 2nd round pick should do the trick.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 1:04 p.m.
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I doubt NJ is saying yes. They'd be in the same situation with RNH the next season as he has only two years left.

Mark Stone is a great comparable for any Hall trade. Bottom-6 player, A-Prospect and a 2nd round pick is a realistic demand.

In this case, maybe Sam Gagner, Jujhar Khaira, Evan Bouchard and a 2020 2nd round pick should do the trick.


Maybe a better player than gagner cause edmonton is not going to be willing to part with bouchard given he's the best prospect in the system and instead trade away either jones,samorukov or lagesson.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 1:11 p.m.
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This proposal is one that NJ would say yes to, but do the Oilers want to have 30 million tied up in 3 players if they were to sign Hall? They could sign Kreider or a guy like that for 3 mill less than Hall , and with the cap staring relatively the same next year that could be the difference between keeping Kassian and letting him walk as a UFA


It'd be worth it. Plus my moving out nuge (whether to NJ or elsewhere) the oilers will only be adding an extra 3-4 mil for hall. this will become better as time goes on cause after 20-21, the oilers get back 2mil that was burried due to buyouts then 1mil the following yr) and in that time the cap is expected to go to an 83.5mil range so there's the extra 4 mil req'd. also id rather have 30mil in 3 legit stars than paying 40 for 3 + nylander *wink wink*
Oct. 17, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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Maybe a better player than gagner cause edmonton is not going to be willing to part with bouchard given he's the best prospect in the system and instead trade away either jones,samorukov or lagesson.


I don't see NJ being interested giving up Hall for nothing short of top prospect. They'd want to maximize the return for future.

Also it's illogical for EDM to give up any better players, as it makes acquiring Hall more pointless. He's most likely going to be a rental acquisition.
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Oct. 17, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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Why would Hall want to go to Edmonton? On the way out he was shat on as the problem in Edmonton and it was his fault they had a losing culture and Lucic would be better anyway and blah blah blah


new management, new system, oilers have talent that hall would want to play with (cause he has been vocal about not getting the right chance with mcdavid), the oilers can afford it, the oilers are on the upswing and hall wants to be winning.
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Oct. 17, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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I don't see NJ being interested giving up Hall for nothing short of top prospect. They'd want to maximize the return for future.

Also it's illogical for EDM to give up any better players, as it makes acquiring Hall more pointless. He's most likely going to be a rental acquisition.


then I can see bear being the odd one out just cause holland is very high on broberg and bouchard (plus bear's value is quite high atm). I'm sure holland would rather trade more 2nd's and 3rd's to ensure that bouch and broberg stay cause they'll most likley be a #1 pair in the future
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:00 p.m.
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new management, new system, oilers have talent that hall would want to play with (cause he has been vocal about not getting the right chance with mcdavid), the oilers can afford it, the oilers are on the upswing and hall wants to be winning.


Except it was the fandom that shat on him, hard. I wouldn't want to go back to Edmonton. They don't deserve him after treating him horribly
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.
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This proposal is one that NJ would say yes to, but do the Oilers want to have 30 million tied up in 3 players if they were to sign Hall? They could sign Kreider or a guy like that for 3 mill less than Hall , and with the cap staring relatively the same next year that could be the difference between keeping Kassian and letting him walk as a UFA


NJD would be stupid to accept this. They don't need RNH, and he is only signed one year longer than Hall. Jones is not special, and 2 seconds isn't enough.

It starts with Bouchard or Broberg and a 1st
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:02 p.m.
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Maybe a better player than gagner cause edmonton is not going to be willing to part with bouchard given he's the best prospect in the system and instead trade away either jones,samorukov or lagesson.


Those guys aren't good enough. It starts with Broberg/Bouchard (one not both)
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:06 p.m.
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NJD would be stupid to accept this. They don't need RNH, and he is only signed one year longer than Hall. Jones is not special, and 2 seconds isn't enough.

It starts with Bouchard or Broberg and a 1st


for the risk of him being a rental??? look at the stone trade to get an idea of what quality rentals go for. Bear would be a pime candidate in that sense cause hes alread nhl ready and young while holland wouldn't part with either brogerb or bouchard cause they'll be a future #1 pair
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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Trading RNH for Hall would be such an Oilers thing to do... ?
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Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:10 p.m.
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Except it was the fandom that shat on him, hard. I wouldn't want to go back to Edmonton. They don't deserve him after treating him horribly


Like I said new regime and new locker room attiutude. Hall was on the chapping block cause he clashed with coaches and management and was frustrated in the room. Fans just called him a lockerroom cancer well after the trade when "insiders" relayed info about his displeasure. Fans hated on hall cause they hated the trade, kinda whats going on in calgary in regards to neal.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:11 p.m.
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Trading RNH for Hall would be such an Oilers thing to do... ?


in this case kinda the right thing to do if you can sign the guy cause paying 26mil for 3 centres isnt ideal.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:12 p.m.
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for the risk of him being a rental??? look at the stone trade to get an idea of what quality rentals go for. Bear would be a pime candidate in that sense cause hes alread nhl ready and young while holland wouldn't part with either brogerb or bouchard cause they'll be a future #1 pair


They are both below Brannstrom when he was traded last year. And that was at the deadline.

Hall won the Hart trophy 2 years ago.

Look at what Duchene got, look at what NJD paid for Kovi all those years ago.

When a star is traded it costs the ol' 1st, top prospect, young player. Given Hall literally won league MVP 18 months ago it's gonna have to be a top prospect. And yes that is risking him just being a rental.

I wouldn't do the trade, it's crazy, but that's typically the market.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 2:12 p.m.
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Like I said new regime and new locker room attiutude. Hall was on the chapping block cause he clashed with coaches and management and was frustrated in the room. Fans just called him a lockerroom cancer well after the trade when "insiders" relayed info about his displeasure. Fans hated on hall cause they hated the trade, kinda whats going on in calgary in regards to neal.


You can explain why you want. Why would Hall want to come back to this? The fans treated him like **** and blamed him for there issues. I wouldn't come back to that
Oct. 17, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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Except it was the fandom that shat on him, hard. I wouldn't want to go back to Edmonton. They don't deserve him after treating him horribly


No it wasn't. Most of the fans still love Hall and would take him back in a second - witness the many "Hall to Edmonton" AGM's on this very site. It was some of the local media who criticized Hall after the trade, the guys that were mouthpieces for the old management team looking to justify the trade.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 4:07 p.m.
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They are both below Brannstrom when he was traded last year.



Corey Pronman has Broberg as the 17th best prospect, Bouchard 26th and Brannstrom in 41st. So no.

Samorukov + two 2nd's is probably about equal to Brannstrom + one 2nd. And Stone had agreed to an extension when Vegas made that deal.

Actually, since Samorukov is a 5-tool defenseman, he may have a higher ceiling than Brannstrom.

https://theathletic.com/1186105/2019/09/12/pronman-top-123-nhl-prospects-entering-the-2019-20-season/?redirected=1
Oct. 17, 2019 at 4:33 p.m.
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in this case kinda the right thing to do if you can sign the guy cause paying 26mil for 3 centres isnt ideal.


Does Draisaitl even play centre at this point?

Acquiring Hall but losing RNH doesn't get the Oilers anywhere plus there's a way better chance that RNH would resign with the Oilers then Hall would.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 4:37 p.m.
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Does Draisaitl even play centre at this point?

Acquiring Hall but losing RNH doesn't get the Oilers anywhere plus there's a way better chance that RNH would resign with the Oilers then Hall would.


I agree that trading (essentially) Hall for RNH doesn't move the team forward much. But yes, Draisaitl plays center a lot - he takes more faceoffs than any other player on the team and has for several years now.
Oct. 17, 2019 at 6:52 p.m.
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No it wasn't. Most of the fans still love Hall and would take him back in a second - witness the many "Hall to Edmonton" AGM's on this very site. It was some of the local media who criticized Hall after the trade, the guys that were mouthpieces for the old management team looking to justify the trade.


Bs. Everywhere I heard it.
 
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