Edited Oct. 18, 2019 at 12:40 p.m.
Quoting: CrossFireX33
Math is hard
Quoting: SammyT_51
Most of the Leafs fans dont even count on re-signing Barrie next year.. he would not be a Leaf next year which is fine.
Quoting: Jamiepo
Tavares....
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
With Andersen and Rielly contracts coming up and Hyman being the only +1M contract coming off the books between then, signing Barrie (for his minimum 8M) would be the absolute stupidest thing Dubas could do. I would highly suggest someone like Shattenkirk next year who shouldn't cost more than 4.5M max (probably less) if you need another offensive defenseman.
Question to BF3351 ... What are you trying to accomplish with your plan of:
1) Ignoring everything I said in our discussion (link to it below).
2) Then mis-quoting me and making an entire team with fake numbers.
3) Just to display that I'm "wrong" or don't know hockey / don't know math ???
I'm kinda interested in learning your mindset LOL ... but here are the actual numbers quoted from my comment
(the one you based this team off):
QUOTE 1 =
"Required Signings = 3 defensemen (Dermott = $2,000,000 / Muzzin = $5,000,000 / Barrie = $7,000,000)"
If we make the honest adjustments:
-
Dermott = $2,000,000 x 1/2 years
(not $3,000,000 x 3) Dermott hasn't left the Leafs bottom pair (and he'll likely stay there this season).
-
Muzzin = $5,000,000 x 6/7 years
(not $5,500,000 x 4) Muzzin likely prefers an extra $8,000,000 - $13,000,000 over a slightly higher cap no?
-
Barrie = $7,000,000 x 7/8 years
(not $7,500,000 x 5) Barrie likely prefers an extra $12,000,000 - $18,000,000 over a slightly higher cap no?
Boom ... now we're only $350,000 over
your salary cap (which is $1,000,000 less than the $84,000,000 cap that the NHL recently projected).
Their projections aren't always perfect (last years was off) but they're usually solid (and I assume that they want to avoid making the same mistake twice in a row).
End result = The above team now have $650,000 in cap-space ... and all you had to not intentionally mis-quote me.
However ... I'll add one more of my quotes ... just to ensure that
"my team" is cap-compliant in any situation:
QUOTE 2 =
"They really don't have to sign Barrie if he wants too much money. They could also trade Kappy + Hyman for help on defense or cap-space"
The key points to pick up on are:
- Barrie doesn't have to be re-signed (depends on his price) and if he has a down year he may get less than expected (Gardiner's a good example of this).
- Kapanen + Hyman can be traded
for help on defense (not just given away for nothing ... as in your above example for some reason).
- Packaging Kappy + Hyman (plus futures if needed) easily nets the Leafs a serviceable defensemen or two (to replace Barrie).
- Toronto is giving up two young(ish) forwards on team-friendly deals (so the defenders coming back should cost less than Barrie).
- The easiest option is to replace Barrie with a less expensive UFA (someone with less offense but solid defense ... which might improve the team).
If they let Barrie walk and replace him with a RD in the $3,000,000 - $5,000,000 range (via signing or trade) ... than your above team now has:
- $2,650,000 - $4,650,000 in excess cap-space
- A full 23 man roster with respectable defense:
Rielly -
Acquired ($3,000,000 - $5,000,000 player)
Muzzin - Dermott
Sandin - Liljegren
Harpur - Holl
Gravel - Schmaltz
So yeah ... I'm surprised you took your response this far (without intending to being honest) ... but I got 10 minutes of entertainment so it's all good.
Link to our original conversation that you made this team from =
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/277740&post_id=1121184