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Hall Benn Suter Leddy Vlasic Jones

Created by: The_Architect
Initial Creation Date: Oct 23, 2019
Published: Oct 23 at 7:42 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
In order to be able to keep Domi and extend Hall there will have to be some trades in the offseason like Petry or Danault or Lehkonen. Domi might have to compromise with a 1 yr bridge of around 6 mill.
Trades
MTL
  1. Leddy, Nick
  2. Ladd, Andrew
NYI
  1. Byron, Paul
MTL
  1. Hall, Taylor
Additional Details:
Hall signs a 7yr×10mill extension
NJD
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Benn, Jamie
DAL
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. Ladd, Andrew
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Suter, Ryan
MIN
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. Reilly, Mike
  3. Alzner, Karl
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  5. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Jones, Martin
  2. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
SJS
  1. Price, Carey
  2. Kulak, Brett
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Buried
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,880,603$0$3,907,500$619,397
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NJD
Hall, Taylor
$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Suter, Ryan
$7,538,461
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
SJS
Jones, Martin
$5,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
SJS
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
$7,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Kinkaid, Keith
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3

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Oct 23 at 7:48
#1
habs_fan
Joined: Jan 2018
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please no this makes us so bad
Oct 23 at 7:56
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: habs_fan123
please no this makes us so bad


Lol dude I don't know. On paper I know our D looks alot better and we won't have to wait 7 yrs for Primeau to become the #1. Hopefully Stephane Waite can do some magic with Jones. And hopefully Weber, Suter and Vlasic decide to retire before their contracts are up since the recapturing penatlies are mostly on the teams that gave it to them.
Oct 23 at 8:06
#3
mokumboi
Joined: Apr 2019
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You don't want Benn, he's declining and you'd have to pay him 9.5M until 24-25. And I have no idea why you'd ever make the Price trade. Yeesh.
Oct 23 at 8:12
#4
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Quoting: mokumboi
You don't want Benn, he's declining and you'd have to pay him 9.5M until 24-25. And I have no idea why you'd ever make the Price trade. Yeesh.


Like i told the other poster, Primeau won't have to wait 6 more years to be the #1. And the D is better (for now) to perhaps make Jones look better
Oct 23 at 8:40
#5
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
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giving away our only top 6 RW with no replacement says we're not contenders.

you're going after names just because they're all stars
it has nothing to do with MTL's needs or this team being a contender.

getting Suter makes sense as we'd only have to give up Tatar and Armia before summer 2021 to make the cap work
every other trade though makes no sense especially Vlasic , like WTF is his purpose if Suter's there?

this roster is a chemistry nightmare like the LAK back in the 1990's there is to many cooks in the kitchen and
not enough team players just bunch of individuals .
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Oct 23 at 8:45
#6
Billy739
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Quoting: mokumboi
You don't want Benn, he's declining and you'd have to pay him 9.5M until 24-25. And I have no idea why you'd ever make the Price trade. Yeesh.


Benn has value but DAL will have to take back a contract to make it work .

example would be Byron ,Juulsen , 1st and a conditional 2nd if Benn wins a cup
not saying thats the exact value just the formula needed to make it worth it .

Benn is a guy who would be beyond perfect playing beside Gallagher in the right situation .
but its honestly hard to imagine DAL doing it or MTL for that matter given where both teams are .

Still having Benn and Danault at Center in the top 6 would give us a top 6 for a playoff run but only if the cost isnt key roster players this year .
Oct 23 at 9:21
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Isles777
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,261
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Isles accept
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Oct 23 at 9:34
#8
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Billy739
giving away our only top 6 RW with no replacement says we're not contenders.

you're going after names just because they're all stars
it has nothing to do with MTL's needs or this team being a contender.

getting Suter makes sense as we'd only have to give up Tatar and Armia before summer 2021 to make the cap work
every other trade though makes no sense especially Vlasic , like WTF is his purpose if Suter's there?

this roster is a chemistry nightmare like the LAK back in the 1990's there is to many cooks in the kitchen and
not enough team players just bunch of individuals .


You can play the violin all you want but there's no data to back up your "chemistry nightmare" statement. Im trying to improve the D and get bigger up front. Hall, Benn and Poehling make us bigger last time I checked.

Don't pretend to know how this squad will perform on the ice, i won't either. But on paper they look like they can hold their own in the playoffs. Yup RW is weak, oh well, I'll let the prospects battle it out for the chance to play along Hall and Benn. But I know that in a year or 2 I'll be fine with Caufield and Suzuki, and perhaps Ylonen in the top 9.

SJ is probably 1 of the very few teams that Price would waive his NMC for. Vlasic is a bad contract I gotta take back for Price's bad contract. I don't want Price in MTL. But Vlasic he's still useful if his minutes are managed properly. Yup it's a crap term just like Suter's and Weber's but Ill just secretly hope 1 or 2 of them retire before their contract expires. And if they don't, they don't.

When Leddy's contract is up Romanov will be nice and ripe.
Oct 23 at 9:41
#9
Leafs
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 983
Likes: 266
all other incorrect things aside, that price trade is brutal for montreal. he's not the reason why montreal can't make the playoffs, still your best player
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Oct 23 at 9:44
#10
Leafs
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Quoting: leafs101
all other incorrect things aside, that price trade is brutal for montreal. he's not the reason why montreal can't make the playoffs, still your best player

and good luck paying hall and domi this year as well as cot kat and poehling the year after
Oct 23 at 10:13
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Thread Starter
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Quoting: leafs101
all other incorrect things aside, that price trade is brutal for montreal. he's not the reason why montreal can't make the playoffs, still your best player


Never claimed that his play is the reason they can't make the playoffs. Actually he's the reason why they've made the playoffs when they have. But his contract now is the reason why MTL can't afford to pay a gamebreaker to actually make a deep run when they're in the playoffs.

Sometimes I can't look too far into the future. Knowing that the cap does go up every year weather it's 2, 3 or 4 mill, it still goes up. Also knowing that Petry's, Danault's,Armia's and Lehkonen's contracts are up in 2 yrs will help (not saying I'd trade all of them or let them walk as FA's) but for sure I can't keep all of them. With Poehling and Suzuki 1 of them could replace Danault. 1 of Brook, Juulsen and Fleury could replace Petry. Suzuki could potentially play on RW with Caufield also they could replace Armia. there's too many variables and possibilities right now.

There's the expansion draft and that could help to take a hefty contract off my hands if it comes to that. (If Primeau is developing properly, I'll expose Jones). There's also the next CBA that hopefully will offer every team at least 1 compliance buy-out, wishfully 2. Bye bye 1 or 2 of Weber/Suter/Vlasic.

Domi will have to settle for a bridge. Thankfully he's a RFA.
Oct 24 at 12:39
#12
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Man, imagine come the expansion draft and you have to protect 34 year old declining Vlasic and 36 year old declining Suter. I like Martin Jones but I've seen more consistency in gas prices.
Oct 24 at 1:19
#13
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
Man, imagine come the expansion draft and you have to protect 34 year old declining Vlasic and 36 year old declining Suter. I like Martin Jones but I've seen more consistency in gas prices.


The way i see it is, most of my young crop is exempt from the draft. I'll go with the 7 F 3D and 1G option. On D I'll protect (no choice Suter and Vlasic) and Fleury. And up front Domi, Hall, Benn, Kotkaniemi, Danault, Armia and Lehkonen. I'll have to expose Juulsen. And depending how Primeau is progressing I'll decide if I'll protect Jones or not.

I'll just have to cross my fingers that every team will be given a compliance buy out with the next CBA and use them on Weber or Suter or Vlasic.
 
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