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Trades to improve

Created by: GMRyan
Initial Creation Date: Oct 27, 2019
Published: Oct 27, 2019 at 10:01 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
This team is better than their record. There is a need for a better defender and perhaps a better defensive forward
Trades
TOR
  1. Martinez, Alec
  2. Toffoli, Tyler ($2,300,000 retained)
LAK
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Bracco, Jeremy
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2021 4th round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Ceci, Cody
TOR
    Future considerations
    PIT
    1. Petan, Nicolas
    Buyouts
    • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    TOR
    CBJ
    TOR
    VGK
    TOR
    CAR
    COL
    EDM
    SJS
    STL
    WPG
    2021
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    WPG
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$82,447,143$0$70,000-$947,143
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TOR
    Johnsson, Andreas
    $3,400,000
    LW
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,634,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, C
    UFA - 5
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    $2,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,893,000
    RW
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    LAK
    Toffoli, Tyler
    $2,300,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Timashov, Dmytro
    $694,444
    LW
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Gauthier, Frédérik
    $675,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Moore, Trevor
    $775,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    TOR
    Shore, Nick
    $750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $700,000
    C, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    LAK
    Martinez, Alec
    $4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Andersen, Frederik
    $5,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $4,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Barrie, Tyson
    $2,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Hutchinson, Michael
    $700,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Dermott, Travis
    $863,333
    LD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    $675,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Gravel, Kevin
    $700,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    TOR
    Horton, Nathan
    $5,300,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Clarkson, David
    $5,250,000
    RW
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Oct 27, 2019 at 10:35
    #1
    Team caaaannnaaada
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    No one would trade for that pieces of trash Ceci
    Toronto is stuck with him until the end of the years! Dubas is destroying this team with horrible trade and garbage signing. Until one of their top forward is move for a real defenceman that will solidify this blue line toronto will be a good team but not great
    Oct 27, 2019 at 10:36
    #2
    Leafs
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    No one would trade for that pieces of trash Ceci
    Toronto is stuck with him until the end of the years! Dubas is destroying this team with horrible trade and garbage signing. Until one of their top forward is move for a real defenceman that will solidify this blue line toronto will be a good team but not great


    chill bro Ceci's on a one year deal they aren't "stuck with him until the end of the years!"
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 11:18
    #3
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    Amen, it’s just a 4th for a team that might lose their top D man to retirement
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 11:30
    #4
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    No one would trade for that pieces of trash Ceci
    Toronto is stuck with him until the end of the years! Dubas is destroying this team with horrible trade and garbage signing. Until one of their top forward is move for a real defenceman that will solidify this blue line toronto will be a good team but not great


    Gudbranson got dealt with term on his much worse contract
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 11:39
    #5
    Team caaaannnaaada
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    Quoting: leafs101
    chill bro Ceci's on a one year deal they aren't "stuck with him until the end of the years!"


    One year deal that pretty much what i said toronto is stuck with him until the end of the year genius
    Oct 27, 2019 at 11:41
    #6
    Team caaaannnaaada
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    Quoting: LoganOllivier
    Gudbranson got dealt with term on his much worse contract


    Gudbranson is by far a better defenseman then Ceci. He brings physicality and he is way more stable in is zone.
    Oct 27, 2019 at 11:46
    #7
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    One year deal that pretty much what i said toronto is stuck with him until the end of the year genius

    ok sure but:
    1) you literally said "years" implying that he was on the hook long term
    2) even if gudbranson is better but by no means is he good, and he's not worth his contract. neither he nor Ceci deserve what they are paid, but the difference is gudbranson's brutal contract still has three years left, while Ceci can easily be dumped to a team who has space this year and is willing to take a chance or take him and a pick as a cap dump. by no means are they stuck with him for even this year
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 11:57
    #8
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    Quoting: leafs101
    ok sure but:
    1) you literally said "years" implying that he was on the hook long term
    2) even if gudbranson is better but by no means is he good, and he's not worth his contract. neither he nor Ceci deserve what they are paid, but the difference is gudbranson's brutal contract still has three years left, while Ceci can easily be dumped to a team who has space this year and is willing to take a chance or take him and a pick as a cap dump. by no means are they stuck with him for even this year


    Personne ne veut Ceci meme si il serait gratuit. C’est un restant de vidange et toronto va devoir payer pour s’en débarrasser. Meme avec trois années a son contrat gudbranson est plus facile à transiger que Ceci. Ceci est une marde et comme les fans de leafs qui croit que leur défensive était meilleur avec ceci et barrie ayaya dans le dénis totale
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 12:07
    #9
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    Gudbranson is by far a better defenseman then Ceci. He brings physicality and he is way more stable in is zone.


    Pffft on what planet? His additional years alone devalue him well below Ceci
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 12:08
    #10
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    Fact is Toronto can flip Ceci if need be
    Oct 27, 2019 at 12:13
    #11
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    Personne ne veut Ceci meme si il serait gratuit. C’est un restant de vidange et toronto va devoir payer pour s’en débarrasser. Meme avec trois années a son contrat gudbranson est plus facile à transiger que Ceci. Ceci est une marde et comme les fans de leafs qui croit que leur défensive était meilleur avec ceci et barrie ayaya dans le dénis totale


    What are you saying?
    Oct 27, 2019 at 12:14
    #12
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    Quoting: leafs101
    ok sure but:
    1) you literally said "years" implying that he was on the hook long term
    2) even if gudbranson is better but by no means is he good, and he's not worth his contract. neither he nor Ceci deserve what they are paid, but the difference is gudbranson's brutal contract still has three years left, while Ceci can easily be dumped to a team who has space this year and is willing to take a chance or take him and a pick as a cap dump. by no means are they stuck with him for even this year


    What you think of Kapanen trade? I think he’s Toronto’s most expendable asset
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 1:23
    #13
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    Quoting: GMRyan
    What you think of Kapanen trade? I think he’s Toronto’s most expendable asset


    Yeah. I cover that lol.

    The package for me is a tad rich, considering what the Leafs moved for Muzzin - and Martinez isn't Muzzin.

    I can live with moving Bracco, who is a better looking prospect than either Durzi or Grundstrom. So if we look at this for Martinez at the moment, Bracco and a 2nd for Martinez and a mid rounder seems to fit - if we compare to the Muzzin deal.... and assuming the Leafs had the cap space.

    Which brings us to Toffoli. Even in retaining salary, Kappy is a huge over pay imo. Moreover, with Hyman set to return, not sure it's even needed (noting I wouldn't move Kappy). But I get the logic. Tofolli replaces Kappy for the year, and frees up the space.

    So, if we look at this package as a whole - Either pull the 2nd rounder altogether or if you include it, the Kings retain salary on Martinez as well.

    Which option B would be highly beneficial in the short term for obvious reasons.
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 3:23
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    Gudbranson is by far a better defenseman then Ceci. He brings physicality and he is way more stable in is zone.


    Okay there bud. Next you'll be saying that Seabrook is also better.
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    Oct 27, 2019 at 5:35
    #15
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    Quoting: LoganOllivier
    Okay there bud. Next you'll be saying that Seabrook is also better.


    Yes seabrook is better then ceci* ceci was trash with ottawa and still is trash with toronto.
    Oct 27, 2019 at 6:45
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    Quoting: Sebybbq
    Yes seabrook is better then ceci* ceci was trash with ottawa and still is trash with toronto.


    He isn't good that is for sure but he isn't trash, he certainly shouldn't be playing against top liners. With that said, he'd be a real good #6.
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    Oct 28, 2019 at 5:53
    #17
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    Quoting: GMRyan
    What you think of Kapanen trade? I think he’s Toronto’s most expendable asset


    Quoting: GMRyan
    What you think of Kapanen trade? I think he’s Toronto’s most expendable asset


    he for sure is Toronto's most expendable asset, but I don't think theres a rush to trade him or anything. If a deal can be worked with picks/prospect that'd be ideal, but the reality is the salary cap won't allow us to do that. I like the addition of toffolli to bring in another guy who has been through the playoffs, but I think that when giving up a young winger with promise, the hope for Toronto is to bring in at least a youngish RHD that has some term left, and if that means adding a pick and/or prospects, I think thats worth it. In terms of the needs for both teams I like it and if the leafs couldn't find anything better it'd definitely be something to consider, but if the leafs can find a younger d man I think it'd be better long term
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