Why is Bowen Byram in every trade proposal

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Created by: dlt_hfu2847whsba

Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2019

Published: Oct. 29, 2019

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Byram is probably the last defense prospect who would ever be traded in this league. Potential matches that of Thomas Chabot and is nearing that of Rasmus Dahlin. Not to mention the insane pair he will form with Cale Makar.

Trades

COL

Literally not happening in any trade

ANA

Bowen Byram

Buyouts

Brooks Orpik: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Tyson Barrie: $2,750,000 (50%)

Buried

Kevin Connauton: $300,000 ($1,375,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$81,500,000	$75,109,761	$0	$3,532,500	$6,390,239

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Landeskog, Gabriel $5,571,429$5,571,429 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C UFA - 4	Rantanen, Mikko $9,250,000$9,250,000 RW, C UFA - 6
Burakovsky, André $3,250,000$3,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $4,500,000$4,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Jost, Tyson $885,833$885,833 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 1
Wilson, Colin $2,600,000$2,600,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, RW UFA - 4	Donskoi, Joonas $3,900,000$3,900,000 RW UFA - 4
Calvert, Matt $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Nieto, Matt $1,975,000$1,975,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Byram, Bowen $925,000$925,000 LD/RD RFA - 4	Makar, Cale $880,833$880,833 ($2,500,000$2M) RD UFA - 2	Francouz, Pavel $950,000$950,000 G UFA - 1
Girard, Samuel $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Timmins, Conor $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 2	Grubauer, Philipp $3,333,333$3,333,333 G UFA - 2
Zadorov, Nikita $3,200,000$3,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Johnson, Erik $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Cole, Ian $3,450,000$3,450,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Barberio, Mark $1,450,000$1,450,000 LD UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan $735,000$735,000 LD UFA - 1
Nichushkin, Valeri $850,000$850,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kamenev, Vladislav $750,000$750,000 C RFA - 1

Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:01 p.m.

coga16

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hes not, its pretty simple.
Troll rosters dont count

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:06 p.m.

Pharow

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Calm down with comparing byram to dahlin! He is a very high talented defenseman but he isn’t s generational talent like dahlin. Dahlin is already a absolute beast st 19 years old.

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:21 p.m.

F50marco

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I mean, i was gonna offer McDavid 1 vs 1 but if that's hows you're going act then nvm then.

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:34 p.m.

Dan10900

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Honestly I'm really low on Byram, and even I'll agree that some of the trade offers are insane lol, there's a reason they didn't move 4OA lol

Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:36 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Here’s the thing if you wanna get a big time player from a rebuilding team you gonna have to give up a big time prospect for a rebuilding team. Hall isn’t going to Colorado for spare parts here it’s gonna be Makar or Byram+.

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:48 p.m.

dlt_hfu2847whsba

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

I'm going to have to disagree here. No team has ever given up a franchise cornerstone prospect for a playoff rental.

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 6:55 p.m.

DonkeyLips

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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane

I'm going to have to disagree here. No team has ever given up a franchise cornerstone prospect for a playoff rental.

If Byram is Colorados franchise cornerstone, then I've got some bad news for ya.

Oct. 29, 2019 at 7:33 p.m.

BlastnyFromThePastny

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Hall isn’t going to Colorado .

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 7:45 p.m.

coga16

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Edited Oct. 29, 2019 at 7:53 p.m.

Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Makar is untouchable, don't be delusional when it comes to the value of teams stud 20 year old Norris caliber Dmen. Makar is not prospect anymore, hes the real deal and already an impactful NHL player

to me Mark Stone and Hall are very similar....and personally I would take Stone 9 times out of 10 over Hall on my team. Byram and Brännström are similar D Prospects.
Stone (extended) went for Brännström, Oscar Lindberg and a 2nd. So wants that...Byram Nieto and a 2nd for an extended Hall

Makar..... Please thats just crazy talk

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 7:45 p.m.

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Quoting: DonkeyLips

If Byram is Colorados franchise cornerstone, then I've got some bad news for ya.

you're a Penguins troll so your opinions are irrelevant

Oct. 29, 2019 at 8:23 p.m.

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

thank you for actually agreeing with non colorado fans and being honest. Yes I am a Devils fan but I'm also fair. If Hall is gone it isn't gonna be a player who is struggling in the AHL, a physical defense who we don't need, and a late first. It will be for a valueable piece. Ya know Vegas didn't get Mark Stone for free, Brannstrom was known as a highly touted defensive prospect for them.

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 8:26 p.m.

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Quoting: coga16

Oct. 29, 2019 at 8:29 p.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: Devilsfan101

and you don't get a Byram level prospect without Hall agreeing to an extension prior to the trade. Thats just the reality of NHL trades now

Oct. 29, 2019 at 8:34 p.m.

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Devilsfan101

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Quoting: coga16

and you don't get a Byram level prospect without Hall agreeing to an extension prior to the trade. Thats just the reality of NHL trades now

exactly. To get a great NHL player you have to give. No one is fleecing any GMs.

Oct. 29, 2019 at 8:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Devilsfan101

exactly. To get a great NHL player you have to give. No one is fleecing any GMs.

No GM Is handing over young prospects not just top ranked on their team but across the entire NHL for pure rentals. GMs appetite for risk isn't there, and its the Devils who are on the clock with Hall as a UFA, they could be forced to take the best deal available at the time if they don't play this right

Oct. 29, 2019 at 9:13 p.m.

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Quoting: coga16

Stone was allowed to talk with Vegas pre trade
I would assume Hall would be the same way.
Not Makar but Byram would be a piece.
Colo is the team I see him going to if any.
Talent, money avail, look to be ready to go on a long run.

Oct. 29, 2019 at 9:21 p.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: Smitty426

thats what I mentioned in another post, using the Stone extended prior agreeing to the trade....an equivalent of Stone for Brännström, Oscar Lindberg and a 2nd from the Avs would be Byram Nieto and a 2nd.
Depending on what he wants for a contract, you have to think about if especially if the Avs are looking like they are owning the Central by the TDL

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Oct. 29, 2019 at 11:37 p.m.

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Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane

I'm going to have to disagree here. No team has ever given up a franchise cornerstone prospect for a playoff rental.

Quoting: tormundgiantsbane

I'm going to have to disagree here. No team has ever given up a franchise cornerstone prospect for a playoff rental.

Not when you have him extended he’s not a rental for playoffs. Which is what most trades on here have said mind you.

Oct. 30, 2019 at 5:21 a.m.

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dlt_hfu2847whsba

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Not when you have him extended he’s not a rental for playoffs. Which is what most trades on here have said mind you.

True, but I saw Vegas do that with Brannstrom (traded to Ottawa for Stone with extension) and I hated it for them. They gave up a top defense prospect for an aging forward. I personally think it's better not to make the deal at all. Especially with Byram (who imo is in another tier above Brannstrom).

Oct. 30, 2019 at 6:17 a.m.

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DonkeyLips

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Quoting: coga16

you're a Penguins troll so your opinions are irrelevant

Actually it's not. Byram may be an elite talent. But he is definitely not a player you build a franchise around. That would be MacKinnon for Colorado. For Christ's sake you people on this site are terrible.

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Oct. 30, 2019 at 7:50 a.m.

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Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: DonkeyLips

I would have to agree with him on this one you aren’t going to build your Roster around and Elite Prospect it’s going to be a Generational Talent like MacKinnon Crosby McDavid heck maybe even Kakko or Hughes.

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Oct. 30, 2019 at 8:22 a.m.

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DonkeyLips

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

The world has been turned upside down.

Oct. 30, 2019 at 10:08 a.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: DonkeyLips

You are 100% are, dont be upset bc people see and disregard your trolling ways

Oct. 30, 2019 at 10:11 a.m.

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DonkeyLips

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Quoting: coga16

You are 100% are, dont be upset bc people see and disregard your trolling ways

How is anything I said in this post trolling?

Oct. 30, 2019 at 10:15 a.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: DonkeyLips

How is anything I said in this post trolling?

You troll in general in every post regarding the Penguins, hence you are a penguin troll so your opinions are irrelevant like I said earlier

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