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Detroit Trade

Created by: vic997
Initial Creation Date: Oct 31, 2019
Published: Oct 31 at 9:23 am
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
No idea what AA's value is considering the slow start but i'd be willing to move way more than this for AA
Trades
PIT
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
DET
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Bjugstad, Nick
  3. Björkqvist, Kasper
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,024,125$132,500$3,832,500$4,475,875
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Oct 31 at 9:25
#1
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Terrible trade for both sides.
Oct 31 at 9:26
#2
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Quoting: Blynasty
Terrible trade for both sides.


both sides? Pens win this by miles if Wings are selling AA at his lowest point.
Oct 31 at 9:30
#3
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Quoting: vic997
both sides? Pens win this by miles if Wings are selling AA at his lowest point.


Giving up too much for a guy who is a pending holdout candidate. He doesn't really seem to play a great team game either. His 30 goals as a top 6 guy for Detroit is a lot different then what he would be on other teams.
Oct 31 at 9:32
#4
StevieY19!!
Joined: Jun 2019
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God I hope Yzerman doesn't sell him off he's got so much potential. He had 2 11 game stints being goaless so he's just streaky just leave him be he'll bounce back.
Oct 31 at 9:33
#5
The Great 58 Letang
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PENS FANS - STOP TRADING JUGGS - HE IS A GOOD 3rd LINE CENTER
** Remember it only took us 3 yrs to find one.
* Unless the player u are trading for is a Game changer
Oct 31 at 9:37
#6
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Sidstick87
PENS FANS - STOP TRADING JUGGS - HE IS A GOOD 3rd LINE CENTER
** Remember it only took us 3 yrs to find one.
* Unless the player u are trading for is a Game changer


He is going to be moved cause of his cap hit in the summer anyway.
You need to keep Chucky or the kessel trade is a massive L by rutherford + Murray, Schultz, McCann, Kahun, Simon extension
Oct 31 at 9:38
#7
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Quoting: Blynasty
Giving up too much for a guy who is a pending holdout candidate. He doesn't really seem to play a great team game either. His 30 goals as a top 6 guy for Detroit is a lot different then what he would be on other teams.


He would excel on the Pens. He's only 25 coming off a 30 goal year.
Oct 31 at 9:38
#8
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Quoting: AnyoneButTheBruins
God I hope Yzerman doesn't sell him off he's got so much potential. He had 2 11 game stints being goaless so he's just streaky just leave him be he'll bounce back.


That's the thing. When he does score, he scores A LOT. Yzerman would be stupid to sell him off now
Oct 31 at 10:20
#9
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
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Holy overpayment, the pens are paying too much for a guy they dont need. We should use those assets on different trades, specifically on defense
Oct 31 at 10:43
#10
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Quoting: Sidstick87
PENS FANS - STOP TRADING JUGGS - HE IS A GOOD 3rd LINE CENTER
** Remember it only took us 3 yrs to find one.
* Unless the player u are trading for is a Game changer


Wouldn't AA be a pretty good 3rd center to replace him?
Oct 31 at 10:47
#11
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Quoting: bigZ98
Holy overpayment, the pens are paying too much for a guy they dont need. We should use those assets on different trades, specifically on defense


it's not that much of an overpayment due to AA being an RFA coming off a 30 goal year.
Bjugstad fetches you a late 2nd/3rd at best, $4.1 mil is a lot to pay for a guy who tops out as a 3rd line C, fringe 2nd line winger.
ZAR is a bottom-six luxury and i'd like the pens to make room for Sam Lafferty in the lineup.
Bjorkqvist is a C prospect.
The 2nd/3rd is to offset some value because AA is still worth A LOT more than those 3 players
Oct 31 at 10:49
#12
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
Wouldn't AA be a pretty good 3rd center to replace him?


I would run AA in the top-six with one of Malkin/Geno. He has a really good shot.
Imo he's slightly better than Galchenyuk. But yes, you'd have Galchenyuk, McCann, AA who can slot in as C if needed.
Oct 31 at 10:55
#13
bigZ
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Quoting: vic997
it's not that much of an overpayment due to AA being an RFA coming off a 30 goal year.
Bjugstad fetches you a late 2nd/3rd at best, $4.1 mil is a lot to pay for a guy who tops out as a 3rd line C, fringe 2nd line winger.
ZAR is a bottom-six luxury and i'd like the pens to make room for Sam Lafferty in the lineup.
Bjorkqvist is a C prospect.
The 2nd/3rd is to offset some value because AA is still worth A LOT more than those 3 players


I get that but I think we dont need him. we have enough guys that can slot into our top 6, and i dont know if we can even afford him with all our other extensions assuming we try to resign chucky as well. But i get your point
Oct 31 at 10:58
#14
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Quoting: Sidstick87
PENS FANS - STOP TRADING JUGGS - HE IS A GOOD 3rd LINE CENTER
** Remember it only took us 3 yrs to find one.
* Unless the player u are trading for is a Game changer


We also have McCann who has shown he can be an ok 2C, with the injuries, I'd be fine with him as a 3C for sure
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Oct 31 at 6:48
#15
The Great 58 Letang
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Quoting: vic997
He is going to be moved cause of his cap hit in the summer anyway.
You need to keep Chucky or the kessel trade is a massive L by rutherford + Murray, Schultz, McCann, Kahun, Simon extension


Do you understand how long GMJR tried trading for him? He loves Bjugstad. The only way he trades him is if he gets a crazy dumb deal for him.
Oct 31 at 6:51
#16
The Great 58 Letang
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
Wouldn't AA be a pretty good 3rd center to replace him?


IDK, bc Sully loves RH Centers and GmJR loves Juggs ... So if they trade him, it will be a trade we absolutely win.
Oct 31 at 6:52
#17
The Great 58 Letang
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Quoting: AFOX10900
We also have McCann who has shown he can be an ok 2C, with the injuries, I'd be fine with him as a 3C for sure


I think McCann has potential to be a star winger, Id just hate to use him as a 3C where still he will be good.
 
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