Georgiev and DeAngelo

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Created by: Trickster

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 31, 2019

Published: Oct. 31, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Slight variation to this trade done by few different people.
Is this enough value to Rangers? Able to upgrade picks if neccessary.

Obviously this move likely means Rangers dont extend Kreider without a significant salary move.

My thoughts for extensions for DeAngelo and Georgiev are :

2 years at 3 million AAV to Deanglo with long term extension to be negotiated later. (Basis is the Pionk signing)

3 years @ 1.25 million AAV to Georgiev (basis is Desmith signing)

This move might allow is to keep Hyman who I feel we need more than Kapanen.

Trades

TOR

NYR

Bracco, Jeremy
Kapanen, Kasperi
Petan, Nicolas
2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
2021 5th round pick (TOR)

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$79,864,643	$0	$202,500	$1,635,357

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $10,893,000$10,893,000 RW UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1	Shore, Nick $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Deangelo, Anthony $925,000$925,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar $792,500$792,500 ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1		Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Oct. 31, 2019 at 7:24 p.m.

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Looks good ? just wondering the break down of the trade?

Oct. 31, 2019 at 7:33 p.m.

Trickster

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

Looks good ? just wondering the break down of the trade?

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

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Oct. 31, 2019 at 7:40 p.m.

NR1203

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Quoting: Trickster

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

I think Kapanen is a bit better, and Deangelo isn't the right guy. We don't need another slick skating puck mover, we need a hainsey/muzzin type who can actually play shutdown D, which Deangelo is incapable of (like Rielly and Barrie)

Oct. 31, 2019 at 7:56 p.m.

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I mean here are the Dmen with a better point rate than Deangelo...and consider the caliber of teams most of those guys are on.

https://i.ibb.co/TWJ0V1y/Screen-Shot-2019-10-31-at-10-46-44-AM.png

How much do you think that's worth?

Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:10 p.m.

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Quoting: NR1203

DeAngelo would be paired in a 3rd pair role with Dermott on the left which is paired with a shut down defensive defenseman that is what Dermott is Dermy can also skat as well, smart pairing if you ask me, if your looking for that RHD shut down top pair guy it'll cost Nylander and the dman will be in the 6-8 million range

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Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:14 p.m.

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Quoting: Trickster

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

That was my thought as well but do you think that's a slight overpay for Georgiev? I haven't watched him much but his numbers look good.

Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

That was my thought as well but do you think that's a slight overpay for Georgiev? I haven't watched him much but his numbers look good.

Kappys + a pick could probably get both DeAngelo and Georgiev

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Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:19 p.m.

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make it a 1st and they'd consider

Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:24 p.m.

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Quoting: Boomer125

That was my thought too, I think Dermott and DeAngelo would be a pair if we traded for him however, I haven't watched him play much do I don't know too much about his game although Trickster says he'd be a great fit.

Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:26 p.m.

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Quoting: Boomer125

Kappys + a pick could probably get both DeAngelo and Georgiev

Sounds good to me, sign_me_up000000 lol

Oct. 31, 2019 at 8:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Trickster

This of course my opinon :

Kapanen = DeAngelo
Bracco, Petan, and 3rd = Georgiev
5th rounder = Di Giuseppe

Also on here you have him paired with Rielly but do you think DeAngelo and Dermott would make a good pairing next year?

Oct. 31, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Sign_em_up000000

Also on here you have him paired with Rielly but do you think DeAngelo and Dermott would make a good pairing next year?

Could be, would require moving Hyman for cap space and then going super cheap like Fantenberg for 3rd pair or Holl Gain.

At that use the money remaining money for 1st pair D.

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Oct. 31, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.

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Yo @jamiepo @palhal @blowing_the_zone @random2152

Anything you can thoughts wise? And Random2152 do you have DeAngelo stats you can share?

Oct. 31, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Trickster

Yo @jamiepo @palhal @blowing_the_zone @random2152

Anything you can thoughts wise? And Random2152 do you have DeAngelo stats you can share?

It's really Kapanen for George and Tony. The other pieces don't mean much. Rangers are at the cap too, and they would be taking more on. If DeAngelo is thought to be an NHL competent now and with growth in the future, Rangers don't trade him for 2nd/3rd line RWer. Rangers don't have motivation to give away Georgiev. Trade fill two needs for the Leafs but for Rangers, not so sure.

Oct. 31, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Ranger fans have said Fox can replace DeAngelo and Shesterkin is ready to make Georgiev expandable.

Like you said their cap situation is bad, especially with Shattenkirk buyout.
They cant pay either guy.

Oct. 31, 2019 at 11:18 p.m.

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Quoting: Trickster

Can't pay either guy, I'm talking this year. You trading them 3.2m Kapanen and combined DeAngelo and George make 1.6m. and then they still need a 900,00 replacement for George...that;s 2.5m additional cap to the Rangers this year.
Maybe those Rangers fans should realize that team needs 6 or 7 NHL Dmen in the course of the year. Don't understand how Fox replaces DeAngelo. Lots of positions for competent Dmen.
Yeah I understand about Shesterkin but should Rangers just give away George when Lundqvist has less than two year left?

Nov. 1, 2019 at 2:19 a.m.

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Quoting: Boomer125

I have mentioned before during the summer about how a top pair D (at least someone who can play with Rielly) is needed and the likely guys to move were Marner or Nylander because moving Matthews is just dumb.
Fast forward a few months and after the Marner overpayment, Nylander is the only realistic move Dubas can make to get the kind D help this team badly needs.

After hearing some NYR fans' opinions, I don't know if DeAngelo is the right guy for this defense.

Nov. 1, 2019 at 12:21 p.m.

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As a Ranger fan I look at Georgiev and DeAngelo as guys they can trade (because of Shesterkin and Fox) but dont have to unless they get what they need. So while trading them for Kapanen, Bracco and a third round pick isn't bad, I'd still look around a bit before pulling the trigger. Trading DeAngelo is a risk because there are times he looks absolutely fantastic.

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Nov. 1, 2019 at 6:13 p.m.

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Quoting: Kakko_to_New_York

make it a 1st and they'd consider

I dont think the rangers would do it. Kapanen is a good player that they'd like, but DeAngelo is going to get paid like 40-50 point dman (not sure he is that but thats the rate he'll get in the off season if he keeps his play up). So we are talking 5-6 mm per year for 5 years this off season. If the rangers have shown anything its that they can develop quality Goalies lately, so I think a 23 year old goalie is getting more in return then people think. It's hard to find young cheap goalies. And the rangers dont have to trade him.

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