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Cayden Primeau v UPL

Created by: BuFfaLOFaN
Initial Creation Date: Nov 2, 2019
Published: Nov 2 at 6:53 pm
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
What are your thoughts on Cayden vs Ukko.
Trades
BUF
  1. Primeau, Cayden
MTL
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
  • Ville Leino: $0
Buried
  • Kyle Okposo: $4,925,000 ($6,000,000)
  • Carter Hutton: $1,675,000 ($2,750,000)
  • Jimmy Vesey: $1,200,000 ($2,275,000)
  • Evan Rodrigues: $925,000 ($2,000,000)
  • Linus Ullmark: $250,000 ($1,325,000)
  • Marcus Johansson: $3,425,000 ($4,500,000)
  • Vladimír Sobotka: $2,425,000 ($3,500,000)
  • Conor Sheary: $1,925,000 ($3,000,000)
  • Zemgus Girgensons: $525,000 ($1,600,000)
  • Marco Scandella: $2,925,000 ($4,000,000)
  • Johan Larsson: $475,000 ($1,550,000)
  • Rasmus Ristolainen: $4,325,000 ($5,400,000)
  • Zach Bogosian: $4,067,857 ($5,142,857)
  • Jake McCabe: $1,775,000 ($2,850,000)
  • Matt Hunwick: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
  • Colin Miller: $2,800,000 ($3,875,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
1$81,500,000$65,990,357$0$3,722,500$15,509,643
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
$880,833
G
RFA - 3
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
BUF
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
$778,333
G
RFA - 3
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$3,650,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
$845,000
C, LW
RFA - 2

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Nov 2 at 6:55
#1
Formerly klondikebar
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UPL
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Nov 2 at 6:56
#2
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BuFfaLoFan
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
UPL


Why would you take him over Cayden? I honestly haven't watched them.
Nov 2 at 6:58
#3
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
UPL


By a country mile
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Nov 2 at 7:01
#4
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BuFfaLoFan
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Quoting: wojme
By a country mile


That's my thoughts but some ppl think other way around,what makes UPL better?
Nov 2 at 7:03
#5
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
That's my thoughts but some ppl think other way around,what makes UPL better?


The fact that he's played well at every stage of his early career. Very fluid, big goalie. Prolly an advantage coming from Finland instead of the NCAA.
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Nov 2 at 7:31
#6
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Quoting: wojme
By a country mile


No, they are pretty damn close actually . Put up similar numbers at world jrs, Primeau has a .943 save % in the AHL with a bad defensive team. Lindgren has had under .890 there 3 years running.

Primeau is every bit the prospect UPL is.
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Nov 2 at 7:38
#7
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Quoting: Gofnut999
No, they are pretty damn close actually . Put up similar numbers at world jrs, Primeau has a .943 save % in the AHL with a bad defensive team. Lindgren has had under .890 there 3 years running.

Primeau is every bit the prospect UPL is.


i think UPL is better as we speak, but CP has a higher ceiling.
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Nov 2 at 7:38
#8
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Quoting: Gofnut999
No, they are pretty damn close actually . Put up similar numbers at world jrs, Primeau has a .943 save % in the AHL with a bad defensive team. Lindgren has had under .890 there 3 years running.

Primeau is every bit the prospect UPL is.


I think UPL being a former 1st round pick has the upper edge in "status" only but if we're just talking about pure skill and performance, Primeau is a lot closer than people think.
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Nov 2 at 7:53
#9
Sabres are elite
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Why would you take him over Cayden? I honestly haven't watched them.


And UPL has a great attitude, doesn't get down on himself and has great sportsmanship. When Finland won gold at U-20 the first thing he did was console DiPietro. Guy is a thoroughbred gentleman. I have no idea about Primeau's personality but UPL is a class act. https://twitter.com/gmillertsn/status/1080919431939686400
Nov 2 at 8:46
#10
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Quoting: F50marco
I think UPL being a former 1st round pick has the upper edge in "status" only but if we're just talking about pure skill and performance, Primeau is a lot closer than people think.


He was a second rounder compared to Caydens 7th
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Nov 2 at 9:11
#11
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
He was a second rounder compared to Caydens 7th


that 7th rounder was from philly too
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Nov 2 at 9:47
#12
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
He was a second rounder compared to Caydens 7th


Oh ok i thought he was late 1st but yeah its the draft statuses that may be swaying peoples minds. Primeau is legit. (So is UPL for that matter)
Nov 3 at 6:58
#13
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Quoting: F50marco
Oh ok i thought he was late 1st but yeah its the draft statuses that may be swaying peoples minds. Primeau is legit. (So is UPL for that matter)


Probably the 2 top goalie prospects in NHL right now, if not the best.
Nov 3 at 10:20
#14
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Probably the 2 top goalie prospects in NHL right now, if not the best.


Pretty sure there are a couple better TBH but it all doesn't matter until they are playing in the NHL and proving it first. Projections are nice and all but mean jack until they do something.
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Nov 3 at 10:25
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Quoting: F50marco
Pretty sure there are a couple better TBH but it all doesn't matter until they are playing in the NHL and proving it first. Projections are nice and all but mean jack until they do something.


4 sure
Nov 3 at 11:02
#16
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well considering UPL has been sent to the ECHL and Primeau has been doing great in the AHL, I'd give the edge to Primeau. But if you were to ask me this past summer I would of said UPL. So I think everyone can agree that it's close.
Nov 4 at 12:06
#17
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
well considering UPL has been sent to the ECHL and Primeau has been doing great in the AHL, I'd give the edge to Primeau. But if you were to ask me this past summer I would of said UPL. So I think everyone can agree that it's close.


UPL was sent to ECHL has a rehab assignment after hip surgery . I will wait till both get this year behind them to even try to figure out who has the brighter future.
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