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SJS WPG AVS

Created by: Shibbal18
Initial Creation Date: Nov 4, 2019
Published: Nov 4 at 12:37 pm
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Trades
BUF
  1. Couture, Logan
SJS
  1. Cozens, Dylan
  2. Samuelsson, Mattias [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Virtanen, Santeri [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Dries, Sheldon
  2. O'Connor, Logan
COL
  1. Sheary, Conor
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
  • Ville Leino: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
WPG
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$73,115,833$0$4,895,000$8,384,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$3,650,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
SJS
Couture, Logan
$8,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 8
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Vesey, Jimmy
$2,275,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Larsson, Johan
$1,550,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,325,000
G
RFA - 1
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Rodrigues, Evan
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Scandella, Marco
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Sobotka, Vladimír
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Hunwick, Matt
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Gilmour, John
$700,000
D
UFA - 1
BUF
Bogosian, Zach
$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov 4 at 12:38
#1
Insta Kempe_is_saad`
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sheary wants some more
Nov 4 at 12:39
#2
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Not sure why sharks would ask for a 26 year old third division goalie but otherwise the deals not bad.
Nov 4 at 12:42
#3
Discord COL's GM
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I have some questions on if Winnipeg is actually willing to take the most overrated Defenseman in the League for Roslovic. I think there are better choices to pick from in the league rather than going for a Defenseman who doesn’t play Defense and Above Average Offense at best.
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Nov 4 at 12:44
#4
BigDog91
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Edited Nov 4 at 12:50
Quoting: papishark
Not sure why sharks would ask for a 26 year old third division goalie but otherwise the deals not bad.


What goalie are you talking about? For the trade this is brutal for the Sabres. Why trade cost control center for 30 year player who just started 8 year 8 million dollar deal. Not worth it for sabres at all. Not saying he isnt good player but that contract will look bad in couple years and cozens can be in your top six next 3 years for under a million.
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Nov 4 at 12:47
#5
BigDog91
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
I have some questions on if Winnipeg is actually willing to take the most overrated Defenseman in the League for Roslovic. I think there are better choices to pick from in the league rather than going for a Defenseman who doesn’t play Defense and Above Average Offense at best.


I think Risto has proved doubters wrong this year and asking price is just going up. He plays against other teams top line, first PK and plays 24+ mins a night. The team is off to one of best starts thanks to his play. The hate he still gets is just incredible and shows they have never watched him play.
Nov 4 at 12:52
#6
Cale 4 Calder
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Avs would take that
Nov 4 at 12:53
#7
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Quoting: BigDog91
I think Risto has proved doubters wrong this year and asking price is just going up. He plays against other teams top line, first PK and plays 24+ mins a night. The team is off to one of best starts thanks to his play. The hate he still gets is just incredible and shows they have never watched him play.


Yeah, @BeastModeUnknown is right here. There will be less expensive options for them, that don't cost them Jack Roslovic.... sorry.
Nov 4 at 12:54
#8
Thread Starter
Shibbal18
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Quoting: BigDog91
What goalie are you talking about? For the trade this is brutal for the Sabres. Why trade cost control center for 30 year player who just started 8 year 8 million dollar deal. Not worth it for sabres at all. Not saying he isnt good but that contract will look bad in couple years and cozens can be in your top six next 3 years for under million.


The way I see it though is, Sabres are getting their 2C, and they're getting a forward prospect in the Risto trade, and theyll have plenty of picks to get another one, so other than a name Sabres fans are used to, they are breaking even. Im not worried about the Couture contract
Nov 4 at 12:54
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that seems like a dump for Sheary? Has he been bad or something?
Nov 4 at 12:56
#10
Thread Starter
Shibbal18
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Quoting: BigDog91
I think Risto has proved doubters wrong this year and asking price is just going up. He plays against other teams top line, first PK and plays 24+ mins a night. The team is off to one of best starts thanks to his play. The hate he still gets is just incredible and shows they have never watched him play.


People will hate Risto and nothing said or even watching him play will change that. The majority of people are too stubborn to change their mind. Its not really worth argueing at this point. Its best to just roll youre eyes and move on
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Nov 4 at 12:56
#11
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Risto looked pretty good this season, I would be looking for more attractive options for a deal, but I don’t like Miller’s game at all, he now looks like our weakest defender. His couple with Dahlin was a disaster in the last games, it seems to me that it’s just contraindicated to play together, I would connect him with Pilut or Gilmour if we trade Risto and Skandella.
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Nov 4 at 12:57
#12
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: coga16
that seems like a dump for Sheary? Has he been bad or something?


Hes just meh, i see him as a depth pickup for the Avs with their current injuries and moving into the post season.
Nov 4 at 1:00
#13
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Hes just meh, i see him as a depth pickup for the Avs with their current injuries and moving into the post season.


wouldnt be a bad pick up, pending UFA, if Rants is out longer (apparently hes closer than once feared) or if Wilson isnt close to returning wouldnt hate this kind of move.
missing 3 of your top 9 fowards would be tough for an extended period of time, so not a bad trade if thats the case
Nov 4 at 1:12
#14
BigDog91
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Quoting: Shibbal18
The way I see it though is, Sabres are getting their 2C, and they're getting a forward prospect in the Risto trade, and theyll have plenty of picks to get another one, so other than a name Sabres fans are used to, they are breaking even. Im not worried about the Couture contract


I think Johnsson has look good at 2c. I dont think Corture would bigger enough upgrade to lose cozens. It also will put us in cap hell going forward. I hope in a year or two mittlestadt will be btter then him which means you have 8 million dollar 3c. To say you dont care about contract is just dumb. Paying 34-38 year 8 million is cap killer. Not worth it. In three years the sharks will have to add picks/prospects to get rid of him.
Nov 4 at 1:34
#15
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: BigDog91
I think Johnsson has look good at 2c. I dont think Corture would bigger enough upgrade to lose cozens. It also will put us in cap hell going forward. I hope in a year or two mittlestadt will be btter then him which means you have 8 million dollar 3c. To say you dont care about contract is just dumb. Paying 34-38 year 8 million is cap killer. Not worth it. In three years the sharks will have to add picks/prospects to get rid of him.


In 4 years the cap ceiling will be exponentially higher, and i dont see him dropping off that fast
Nov 4 at 2:03
#16
BigDog91
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Quoting: Shibbal18
In 4 years the cap ceiling will be exponentially higher, and i dont see him dropping off that fast


I think you would crazy to trade 18 year old for 30 year old. He will drop off all players do, he is not special.
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Nov 4 at 2:08
#17
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: BigDog91
I think you would crazy to trade 18 year old for 30 year old. He will drop off all players do, he is not special.

Eventually, but whats to say Cozens becomes half of what we get from Couture, just cause we liked him in camp. Theyre will be plenty of other first rounders, the Sabres dont really need that, they need established veteran talent thats hungry for a cup
Nov 4 at 2:26
#18
BigDog91
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Eventually, but whats to say Cozens becomes half of what we get from Couture, just cause we liked him in camp. Theyre will be plenty of other first rounders, the Sabres dont really need that, they need established veteran talent thats hungry for a cup


That is true. But more importantly is why would you want the cap hit. With him in the fold you will likely have to trade Mittlestadt for cap reasons.
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Nov 4 at 3:36
#19
Discord COL's GM
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Quoting: BigDog91
I think Risto has proved doubters wrong this year and asking price is just going up. He plays against other teams top line, first PK and plays 24+ mins a night. The team is off to one of best starts thanks to his play. The hate he still gets is just incredible and shows they have never watched him play.


But playing consistently for an entire season is what I’m worried about yes he is doing good sure but how long is that gonna last just enough to flip him for top dollar then he goes to crap again is my concern.
Nov 4 at 4:01
#20
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
But playing consistently for an entire season is what I’m worried about yes he is doing good sure but how long is that gonna last just enough to flip him for top dollar then he goes to crap again is my concern.


He had bad coaching and a bad team around him in the past . Finally has good coaching and they are getting talent around him . Nothing to worry about
 
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