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Hainsey

Created by: Marino4Norris
Initial Creation Date: Nov 5, 2019
Published: Nov 5, 2019 at 9:58
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Hainsey, Ron
OTT
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Aston-Reese, Zach
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,374,125$132,500$3,832,500$3,125,875

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
OTT
Hainsey, Ron
$3,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Hörnqvist, P.
Guentzel, J.
Crosby, S.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Power Play 2
Bjugstad, N.
McCann, J.
Simon, D.
Schultz, J.
Galchenyuk, A.
Penalty Kill 1
Blueger, T.
Rust, B.
Dumoulin, B.
Letang, K.
Penalty Kill 2
Tanev, B.
Kahun, D.
Pettersson, M.
Hainsey, R.

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Nov 5, 2019 at 9:58
#1
Crazy Penguins Fan
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 177
Likes: 75
Not again.
Nov 5, 2019 at 10:10
#2
arky
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,115
Likes: 1,204
So Aston Reese and a 3rd for a serviceable defenseman and take this horrible deal. To get rid of JJ it will take at least AR a d a pick so stop thinking you are going to give the least to get rid of JJ and expect something in return better than bag of pucks.
Nov 5, 2019 at 10:58
#3
Along51
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 130
Likes: 19
jj has actually been good recently
Nov 6, 2019 at 2:36
#4
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 12,804
Likes: 3,008
Quoting: mikearky
So Aston Reese and a 3rd for a serviceable defenseman and take this horrible deal. To get rid of JJ it will take at least AR a d a pick so stop thinking you are going to give the least to get rid of JJ and expect something in return better than bag of pucks.


You don't watch much hockey do you.
You hear a bunch of people say. Yeah JJ sucks......then just go along with the flow.
in 14 games he's given up 6 goals and the team has scored 9 in 5v5 play. In 5v5 close play. It's 6 goals for and 2 against. And at tie it's 2 for and 1 against.
You can flip it, turn it, stand it on it's head. It doesn't matter. Anyone watching knows that whats happening on the ice is working. EVERYONE.
The truth is JJ is playing better 5v5 hockey than many teams 3rd pairings. He's been a solid contributor on the PK, and even helped out a little on the offensive zone.
And he's done it without getting sheltered. 66.7% of his starts on in the defensive end.
WTF are you thinking.
Nov 6, 2019 at 8:19
#5
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 680
Likes: 310
Quoting: pharrow
You don't watch much hockey do you.
You hear a bunch of people say. Yeah JJ sucks......then just go along with the flow.
in 14 games he's given up 6 goals and the team has scored 9 in 5v5 play. In 5v5 close play. It's 6 goals for and 2 against. And at tie it's 2 for and 1 against.
You can flip it, turn it, stand it on it's head. It doesn't matter. Anyone watching knows that whats happening on the ice is working. EVERYONE.
The truth is JJ is playing better 5v5 hockey than many teams 3rd pairings. He's been a solid contributor on the PK, and even helped out a little on the offensive zone.
And he's done it without getting sheltered. 66.7% of his starts on in the defensive end.
WTF are you thinking.


how dare you bring logic and sense in here. JJ bad! Give Poulin for JJ! smh some people here are basically sheep
Nov 6, 2019 at 10:21
#6
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 12,804
Likes: 3,008
Quoting: bigZ98
how dare you bring logic and sense in here. JJ bad! Give Poulin for JJ! smh some people here are basically sheep


my bad, sorry
Nov 6, 2019 at 12:05
#7
arky
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,115
Likes: 1,204
Quoting: pharrow
You don't watch much hockey do you.
You hear a bunch of people say. Yeah JJ sucks......then just go along with the flow.
in 14 games he's given up 6 goals and the team has scored 9 in 5v5 play. In 5v5 close play. It's 6 goals for and 2 against. And at tie it's 2 for and 1 against.
You can flip it, turn it, stand it on it's head. It doesn't matter. Anyone watching knows that whats happening on the ice is working. EVERYONE.
The truth is JJ is playing better 5v5 hockey than many teams 3rd pairings. He's been a solid contributor on the PK, and even helped out a little on the offensive zone.
And he's done it without getting sheltered. 66.7% of his starts on in the defensive end.
WTF are you thinking.


Ok, so you say he is playing better, but history shows that over the last 2 to 3 years he has been bad. A short 10 to 15 games does not mean he has turned any corner. Could he become serviceable in a certain kind of system, sure. But with cap space at a premium do teams want to take that chance?
Nov 6, 2019 at 1:00
#8
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 12,804
Likes: 3,008
Quoting: mikearky
Ok, so you say he is playing better, but history shows that over the last 2 to 3 years he has been bad. A short 10 to 15 games does not mean he has turned any corner. Could he become serviceable in a certain kind of system, sure. But with cap space at a premium do teams want to take that chance?


if you are going by the last 2 years you are wasting your time.
He spent the vast majority of the year last year on his off side playing with mix and match partners because Schultz was out all year. That's not how you judge a player.
The year before that he was in CBJ and not getting along with the coaching staff. That's all there is to that.

We saw this play at the end of last year. When schultz had come back from injury. He was a -20 something until switched back to his natural side where he finished a -4 on the year I think. That means in a short time period he went +16 at the end of the year.
You see now and he's what a +3 or +4.
He's not coughing up goals all over the ice, only 6 goals at even strength.
You can talk about system or this or that or whatever.
How about judging a guy playing on his proper side?
 
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