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Hall after dealing for him

Created by: CHUG
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 6, 2019
Published: Nov. 6, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This signing assumes hall is only concerned about the total dollars as he would be able to sign for the extra year and get 8x9.5 = 76 million which is basically what he would get if he signed a 7x11 = 77 million dollar deal on the open market cause he wouldn't be able to get the extra year. Also assumes he takes a bit of a discount to play with sid and geno and to compete for a cup the next 5 years. I'd say that the only way Rutherford moves his first rounder in 2019 is if Hall is coming back.
could also do rust instead of bjugstad in the Hurricanes deal and jarry instead of desmith in the NJD deal
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
8$6,500,000
2$1,000,000
5$3,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$750,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$9,500,000
3$2,750,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Fleury, Haydn [RFA Rights]
2.
OTT
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
    Hall
    done in 2019
    NJD
    1. DeSmith, Casey
    2. Hållander, Filip
    3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
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    kahun
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,000,000$80,675,000$0$850,000$2,325,000

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
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    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $850,000$850,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $850,000$850,000
    LD
    UFA - 2

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    Nov. 6, 2019 at 1:28 p.m.
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    Not enough for Hall.

    A low to mid 20's draft pick.
    DeSmith was put on waivers this year and nobody claimed him,
    Kahun is on pace for 36 pts
    Hallander is a projected bottom 6 forward per Corey Pronman's prospect rankings,

    Not the most enticing package in the world
    Nov. 6, 2019 at 1:32 p.m.
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    could also use rust instead of kahun there and legare or addison instead of hallander
    Nov. 6, 2019 at 1:51 p.m.
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    could also use rust instead of kahun there and legare or addison instead of hallander


    could also use rust instead of kahun there and legare or addison instead of hallander
    Nov. 6, 2019 at 2:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: Book_Hockey
    Not enough for Hall.

    A low to mid 20's draft pick.
    DeSmith was put on waivers this year and nobody claimed him,
    Kahun is on pace for 36 pts
    Hallander is a projected bottom 6 forward per Corey Pronman's prospect rankings,

    Not the most enticing package in the world


    your not gonna get a top 10 or top 5 first round pick from a hall trade. No team in the basement is gonna trade for hall.
    Desmith was placed on waivers so Jarry could play. No one claimed him because people dont know how waivers work. A lot of teams when he was placed on waiver were around the 48 contract number and the limit is 50. Teams dont always claim players off waivers because sometimes they would rather trade a contract for it or cap for it instead of just adding. Desmith has shows to be a solid back up, and can be relied upon to play 40 games even by split starting.
    Kahun was off to slow start because he could not finish his chances. He has 5 points in his last 3 games, he has finally broken the drought and has been playing exceptional.
    Its hard to be a top 6 center on many teams, especially the devils. The hischier - hughes duo is elite, and hallander may be a great 3C behind them if his development continues to grow.

    I think this package is good, i dont think the devils would accept, but i also think adding more will be an overpayment for pens. Legare for Hall is a huge no to me.
    Nov. 6, 2019 at 2:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: bigZ98
    your not gonna get a top 10 or top 5 first round pick from a hall trade. No team in the basement is gonna trade for hall.
    Desmith was placed on waivers so Jarry could play. No one claimed him because people dont know how waivers work. A lot of teams when he was placed on waiver were around the 48 contract number and the limit is 50. Teams dont always claim players off waivers because sometimes they would rather trade a contract for it or cap for it instead of just adding. Desmith has shows to be a solid back up, and can be relied upon to play 40 games even by split starting.
    Kahun was off to slow start because he could not finish his chances. He has 5 points in his last 3 games, he has finally broken the drought and has been playing exceptional.
    Its hard to be a top 6 center on many teams, especially the devils. The hischier - hughes duo is elite, and hallander may be a great 3C behind them if his development continues to grow.

    I think this package is good, i dont think the devils would accept, but i also think adding more will be an overpayment for pens. Legare for Hall is a huge no to me.


    1. I know that no team in the top 5 or 10 is going to trade for Hall.

    2. I'm well aware of how waivers work- the point being that if DeSmith was that good, they wouldn't need to give Jarry a look. They would see the value that he brings to the club and would not risk the chance of another team picking him up. He's also not a significantly better option then either Blackwood or Schneider at this point so I do not see the value in acquiring him.

    3. THE DEVILS DO NOT NEED A THIRD LINE CENTER. This has been a constant theme on this website. They could go a number of routes (McLeod, Zacha, Zajac) in the future. You point to Kahun "finally breaking the drought"- his shooting % is inflated right now at 14.3%. So with the shooting % inflation, he's on pace for roughly .5 points per game. That's not great.

    4. This is the biggest problem of them all- Hallander is not a very good prospect. The organization is already littered with bottom 6 talent, there is no point in acquiring another one.

    All in all, quality > quantity. The pens do not have the quality pieces needed to get a deal done IMO.
    Nov. 6, 2019 at 2:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: Book_Hockey
    1. I know that no team in the top 5 or 10 is going to trade for Hall.

    2. I'm well aware of how waivers work- the point being that if DeSmith was that good, they wouldn't need to give Jarry a look. They would see the value that he brings to the club and would not risk the chance of another team picking him up. He's also not a significantly better option then either Blackwood or Schneider at this point so I do not see the value in acquiring him.

    3. THE DEVILS DO NOT NEED A THIRD LINE CENTER. This has been a constant theme on this website. They could go a number of routes (McLeod, Zacha, Zajac) in the future. You point to Kahun "finally breaking the drought"- his shooting % is inflated right now at 14.3%. So with the shooting % inflation, he's on pace for roughly .5 points per game. That's not great.

    4. This is the biggest problem of them all- Hallander is not a very good prospect. The organization is already littered with bottom 6 talent, there is no point in acquiring another one.

    All in all, quality > quantity. The pens do not have the quality pieces needed to get a deal done IMO.


    you make fair points
     
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