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BOLD STATEMENT Draisitl isnt really that good McDavid just makes him look lthat

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Only skill that he has is his shot, and tonight he is horrible
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:16 p.m.
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McDavids ppg was because Draisaitl weaved through defenders and made a nice pass to him in front of the net for an easy goal
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:16 p.m.
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Well this is just stupid
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:21 p.m.
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I will never be mistaken for an Oiler fan but Draisaitl IMO is just as important to the Oilers as McDavid. The progression Draisiaitl has made the last 4 seasons is simply astounding and he has become one of the premier 2 way forwards in the league
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:22 p.m.
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Draisaitle talent plays anywhere, its just such a drop off from him and Mcdavid to the rest of the oilers forwards, draisaitle has one of the best bang for your buck contracts there is. If he’s available jets would snap him up in a instant.
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:22 p.m.
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I will never be mistaken for an Oiler fan but Draisaitl IMO is just as important to the Oilers as McDavid. The progression Draisiaitl has made the last 4 seasons is simply astounding and he has become one of the premier 2 way forwards in the league


Respect my man
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:22 p.m.
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Draisaitle talent plays anywhere, its just such a drop off from him and Mcdavid to the rest of the oilers forwards, draisaitle has one of the best bang for your buck contracts there is. If he’s available jets would snap him up in a instant.


Definitely not available haha
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:26 p.m.
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Definitely not available haha


That was just part of my quote to make my point, not actual reality
Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:29 p.m.
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How do you respond to something that stupid?
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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BOLD STATEMENT: You're not the first person to think that.... I can't believe we're still having this conversation after he just put up 50 goals.
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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BOLD STATEMENT: You're not the first person to think that.... I can't believe we're still having this conversation after he just put up 50 goals.
Nov. 6, 2019 at 10:58 p.m.
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This is just a hot take for the sake of having a hot take. Draisaitl is one of the most dangerous goal scorers in the league, and he's a more complete player than guys like Ovi, Laine or Debrincat.
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 11:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
How do you respond to something that stupid?


Just agree bc the explanation is probably more embarrassing.
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 11:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
This is just a hot take for the sake of having a hot take. Draisaitl is one of the most dangerous goal scorers in the league, and he's a more complete player than guys like Ovi, Laine or Debrincat.


Whoaaa! Not allowed to negativity talk about Ovechkin
Nov. 6, 2019 at 11:34 p.m.
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Whoaaa! Not allowed to negativity talk about Ovechkin


No hate on Ovi, he's the best goal scorer of all time. Draisaitl is a more complete player and it's not close.
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Nov. 6, 2019 at 11:36 p.m.
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Highly highly disagree. I wanted him over Reinhart, and still do.
Nov. 6, 2019 at 11:48 p.m.
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I will never be mistaken for an Oiler fan but Draisaitl IMO is just as important to the Oilers as McDavid. The progression Draisiaitl has made the last 4 seasons is simply astounding and he has become one of the premier 2 way forwards in the league


No he isn't. He just isn't.

To op: Draisatl is a top end player, 1c/1 la. Perennial all star type player. Top 20-25 or so forward. But playing with McDavid has carried him above that into one of the very best in the league. Top 5 or so
Nov. 6, 2019 at 11:51 p.m.
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"Tonight he was horrible"

That's why he had the only 2 passes that made any sort of contribution to the Oilers offense.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:08 a.m.
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Anyone have Draisaitl’s numbers with McDavid and without? Not just goals and points but some of the analytics too.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 7:51 a.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
BOLD STATEMENT: You're not the first person to think that.... I can't believe we're still having this conversation after he just put up 50 goals.
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Anyone have Draisaitl’s numbers with McDavid and without? Not just goals and points but some of the analytics too.


Quoting: AH96
"Tonight he was horrible"

That's why he had the only 2 passes that made any sort of contribution to the Oilers offense.


Quoting: BCAPP
No he isn't. He just isn't.

To op: Draisatl is a top end player, 1c/1 la. Perennial all star type player. Top 20-25 or so forward. But playing with McDavid has carried him above that into one of the very best in the league. Top 5 or so


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Highly highly disagree. I wanted him over Reinhart, and still do.


Quoting: Claesson4Norris
No hate on Ovi, he's the best goal scorer of all time. Draisaitl is a more complete player and it's not close.


Quoting: TopLineTom43
Whoaaa! Not allowed to negativity talk about Ovechkin


Quoting: Claesson4Norris
This is just a hot take for the sake of having a hot take. Draisaitl is one of the most dangerous goal scorers in the league, and he's a more complete player than guys like Ovi, Laine or Debrincat.


Quoting: NickC1988
BOLD STATEMENT: You're not the first person to think that.... I can't believe we're still having this conversation after he just put up 50 goals.


Quoting: Sebybbq
How do you respond to something that stupid?


Quoting: Birtle34
Draisaitle talent plays anywhere, its just such a drop off from him and Mcdavid to the rest of the oilers forwards, draisaitle has one of the best bang for your buck contracts there is. If he’s available jets would snap him up in a instant.


Quoting: ItWasIn
I will never be mistaken for an Oiler fan but Draisaitl IMO is just as important to the Oilers as McDavid. The progression Draisiaitl has made the last 4 seasons is simply astounding and he has become one of the premier 2 way forwards in the league


Quoting: Isles777
McDavids ppg was because Draisaitl weaved through defenders and made a nice pass to him in front of the net for an easy goal


Ok, so I'm sorry that I wrote this in this 'way' a lot of you misunderstood me, I was trying to say that he is not better than McDavid or even close to equal, he is scoring at such a high pace because of McDavid, not saying he isn't skilled because he is very skilled, just saying he isn't McDavid, why do people think he is?

Not really a bold STATEMENT
Nov. 7, 2019 at 8:12 a.m.
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McDavids ppg was because Draisaitl weaved through defenders and made a nice pass to him in front of the net for an easy goal


Kassian's goal was off an incredible cross ice pass from Draisaitl.

*Someone* doesn't watch the games.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 8:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Jah1722
Anyone have Draisaitl’s numbers with McDavid and without? Not just goals and points but some of the analytics too.


To be fair you'll have to run McDavid's numbers with and without Draisaitl. Chemistry, its a thing.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 8:17 a.m.
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Ok, so I'm sorry that I wrote this in this 'way' a lot of you misunderstood me, I was trying to say that he is not better than McDavid or even close to equal, he is scoring at such a high pace because of McDavid, not saying he isn't skilled because he is very skilled, just saying he isn't McDavid, why do people think he is?

Not really a bold STATEMENT


"He plays with someone better" is such a weak argument. McDavid makes Draisaitl better for sure, the reverse is also true. I don't understand why this is such a huge point of contention with Draisaitl. It's not uncommon for a team's two best players to play on a line together. McKinnon has Rantanen, Kucherov has Stamkos, hell Pastranak has Bergeron AND Marchand but somehow he eludes these kinds of criticisms.

Be honest, did you have this same kind of energy when Jeff Skinner scored 40 goals playing with Eichel, or is that different?
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 8:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
"He plays with someone better" is such a weak argument. McDavid makes Draisaitl better for sure, the reverse is also true. I don't understand why this is such a huge point of contention with Draisaitl. It's not uncommon for a team's two best players to play on a line together. McKinnon has Rantanen, Kucherov has Stamkos, hell Pastranak has Bergeron AND Marchand but somehow he eludes these kinds of criticisms.

Be honest, did you have this same kind of energy when Jeff Skinner scored 40 goals playing with Eichel, or is that different?


I wish I could like this more than once. You have nicely summed up the bias in the arguments against Draisaitl being an elite player.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 8:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
"He plays with someone better" is such a weak argument. McDavid makes Draisaitl better for sure, the reverse is also true. I don't understand why this is such a huge point of contention with Draisaitl. It's not uncommon for a team's two best players to play on a line together. McKinnon has Rantanen, Kucherov has Stamkos, hell Pastranak has Bergeron AND Marchand but somehow he eludes these kinds of criticisms.

Be honest, did you have this same kind of energy when Jeff Skinner scored 40 goals playing with Eichel, or is that different?


That's different, because Skinner isn't Draisitl, and Eichel made.skinner better, my point is not that Draisitl isnt elite but that why are people comparing him to McDavid?
Nov. 7, 2019 at 8:34 a.m.
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That's different, because Skinner isn't Draisitl, and Eichel made.skinner better, my point is not that Draisitl isnt elite but that why are people comparing him to McDavid?


Nobody is saying he's a better player than McDavid, but it's hard to argue he hasn't been better than McDavid this season.

In the last 18 months or so Leon Draisaitl has elevated his game to such a level that he's put himself into the "Best Player not Named Connor McDavid" conversation with guys like Crosby and McKinnon. Trying to dismiss all the work he's done by saying it's because of McDavid is lazy and it's not an argument I have any time for.
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