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Riffing Off Leafs amp Isles Below

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 7, 2019
Published: Nov. 7, 2019
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I’d part with Nylander to solve RHD holes
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What would TOR need to add Isle’s fans?
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  1. 2020 5th round pick (WPG)
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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Leafs could add two 1st rd picks and isles still wouldn’t do it. Dobson is borderline untouchable.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:54 p.m.
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I wouldn’t make a trade for Dobson. Too rich in value and not what we need. We need an rhd that can handle top lines mayfield would be a good addition though.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Leafs could add two 1st rd picks and isles still wouldn’t do it. Dobson is borderline untouchable.


Just like Nylander is untouchable and yet everybody seems to be trading him..
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Leafs could add two 1st rd picks and isles still wouldn’t do it. Dobson is borderline untouchable.


I think mayfield would be the better trade target for the leafs needs.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:56 p.m.
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Can’t see Dobson being moved at all. Mayfield obviously doesn’t return Nylander without major adds. Kapanen makes more sense
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I think mayfield would be the better trade target for the leafs needs.


A deal involving mayfield and kapanen makes more sense
Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:56 p.m.
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As a leaf fan I don't think NYI are/would move dibs on and rightfully so. I think in order to get them to even consider it we would be talking about Marner not Nylander. Wilde would be a better target IMO.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Just like Nylander is untouchable and yet everybody seems to be trading him..


Is marner untouchable as well? I feel like one of the two will have to be moved for a top RHD
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I think mayfield would be the better trade target for the leafs needs.


Or wilde
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
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Or, the Leafs can be patient and let their own prospects develop. The defence isn't really a problem this year. If you look at their advance stats, goaltending has been far bigger issue than defence and Andersen is already rebounding so I am not worried at all. Hopefully the Leafs can win a back to back on Sunday and then Hutch can get some confidence.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.
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Dobson > Nylander long term. Would have interest in him but not at this price
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:59 p.m.
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Or wilde


Wilde is about a year away and he’s an offensive defenseman. Not sure the leafs would be interested.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Is marner untouchable as well? I feel like one of the two will have to be moved for a top RHD


Everyone fan outside of TO wants to see one of Marner or Nylander traded for a defenceman and have it be the newest Hall for Larsson. The Leafs don't need to trade anyone. This is just fan angst or trolling.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
A deal involving mayfield and kapanen makes more sense


In your opinion what would it take my leafs to get Bode Wilde?
Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Wilde is about a year away and he’s an offensive defenseman. Not sure the leafs would be interested.


Fair enough, it's more of I would like to get him then the leafs actually going after him.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:01 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Everyone fan outside of TO wants to see one of Marner or Nylander traded for a defenceman and have it be the newest Hall for Larsson. The Leafs don't need to trade anyone. This is just fan angst or trolling.


Bringing up hall for larsson implies dubas doesn’t know how to evaluate defenseman. I don’t think it’s a stretch that the leafs would be cup contenders if they traded one of the two for a Top RHD that can play defense
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:03 p.m.
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In your opinion what would it take my leafs to get Bode Wilde?


Kapanen and a lottery protected 1st for Wilde and our 2nd?
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.
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Kapanen and a lottery protected 1st for Wilde and our 2nd?


What about Wilde and Mayfield?
Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Bringing up hall for larsson implies dubas doesn’t know how to evaluate defenseman. I don’t think it’s a stretch that the leafs would be cup contenders if they traded one of the two for a Top RHD that can play defense


Who is a top RHD that they could pick up? Because I am not seeing any that are available that won't cost way more than they are worth or are way too old. Its easy to say if TO magically had a top RHD they would be a contender but getting that is not easy. Plus they actually don't really need that, what they need is to move Ceci down to the 3rd pair and Dermott up to the top and that alone would drastically improve the top 4, which also already has Muzzin (A top pair defenceman), Barrie (Also a top pair defenceman) and Rielly (who is a top 10 defenceman in the league). The notion that TO's defence is their weakness, or toughness for that matter, is a lazy argument that talking heads make because they know that speculating on the Leafs gets the most clicks to their sites. Statistically speaking this years Leaf team is above average defensively in every way apart from goals allowed and with Andersen past his usual October swoon, that is quickly going to be a thing of the past.

I am not say they are a lock to win it all or anything like that, nor am I saying the Leafs wouldn't like another defenceman, all I am saying is the notion that without a #1 RHD shutdown defender (Who even fits that bill?) they are a bubble team or whatever the arguement is, that is complete nonsense. TO is going to challenge for the division lead and they'll be one of the best teams in the league this regular season. They won't be judged on the regular season, it'll all be about the playoffs and Boston who they will likely take on in the 2nd round or earlier this year.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Is marner untouchable as well? I feel like one of the two will have to be moved for a top RHD


How about none of them two would be traded for anybody? I know people from outside want one of them gone but if we are trading winger for Dman it would be one of Kapanen/Johnsson who would fetch a top-4 Dman.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:11 p.m.
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Kapanen and a lottery protected 1st for Wilde and our 2nd?


You Islander fans sure put a premium on your prospects. A former 2nd round pick will cost a former 1st round pick and an unprotected 1st. Seems like an awfully big premium for someone who has accomplished exactly nothing in the NHL. Now don't take me wrong, I don't think he sucks or anything at all. All I am saying is, that is an awfully big price tag for someone who is still completely unproven. For instance, what would you call me if I said the price for Sandin is worth a top 6 forward and an unprotected 1st round pick? I am sure you'd call me insane and yet in comparison, Sandin is much further along and projects to be an outstanding player.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Just like Nylander is untouchable and yet everybody seems to be trading him..


That's because of the three, he has the most reasonable contract (remember how he was asking for 8.5 million?) and teams could actually fit his number within their cap...nevermind that might actually be a top forward on just about any team.
Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Is marner untouchable as well? I feel like one of the two will have to be moved for a top RHD


I’d bet at some point Nylander is dealt for a defenseman. Kapanen and AJ don’t hold the value required to get what Toronto needs......Right handed top 4 d man who ideally can play with Reilly and cover for his defensive ineptitude. They should have traded Nylander for Pesce when they had the chance in my opinion.
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Nov. 7, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
You Islander fans sure put a premium on your prospects. A former 2nd round pick will cost a former 1st round pick and an unprotected 1st. Seems like an awfully big premium for someone who has accomplished exactly nothing in the NHL. Now don't take me wrong, I don't think he sucks or anything at all. All I am saying is, that is an awfully big price tag for someone who is still completely unproven. For instance, what would you call me if I said the price for Sandin is worth a top 6 forward and an unprotected 1st round pick? I am sure you'd call me insane and yet in comparison, Sandin is much further along and projects to be an outstanding player.


First, I said lottery protected. And second, Wilde was largely considered a top-20 pick. He slipped because of erroneous character concerns. He's as advertised and very coachable. Who cares what round he was drafted in if he's a valuable prospect? I'd use TML as an example here but your last real "steal" was Johnsson in the 7th round 6 years ago
Nov. 7, 2019 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: joshelkin
First, I said lottery protected. And second, Wilde was largely considered a top-20 pick. He slipped because of erroneous character concerns. He's as advertised and very coachable. Who cares what round he was drafted in if he's a valuable prospect? I'd use TML as an example here but your last real "steal" was Johnsson in the 7th round 6 years ago


I am not sure what your point is. I am not knocking him, I just don't think you are going to get a 1st and a top 6 winger for a kid that hasn't yet accomplished anything and wasn't a top 5 pick. I actually can't ever recall a trade like that. An unproven highly touted player is worth another unproven highly touted player. Or would be part of a package for an established player. Not the other way around. I suppose if TO wanted to trade Kapanen for Wilde straight up there would be a logical argument as to making that deal. TO would be clearing space for other adds and bring on a young player they hope will be able to contribute in the top 4 within the next couple of years. I'd wager that could be a scenario that works for both sides.

But to suggest that Wilde is worth Kapanen and a 1st is just a homer reaction to a trade. You are fiercely loyal to a Wilde and your emotions are clouding your judgement.
 
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