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Something Ive been thinking about for awhile Pittsburgh fans

Created by: BeastModeUnknown
Initial Creation Date: Nov 8, 2019
Published: Nov 8 at 3:09 pm
Team: 2019-20 St. Louis Blues
Team Explanation
I don't know much on value because I haven't really paid any attention to Chucky since his Montreal days.
Trades
STL
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
PIT
  1. MacEachern, Mackenzie
  2. Toropchenko, Alexei
  3. Sanford, Zachary
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
STL
STL
STL
STL
CAR
2021
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
2022
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$73,137,927$12,928$915,000$8,362,073
Left WingCenterRight Wing
STL
Schwartz, Jaden
$5,350,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
$7,500,000
C
UFA - 4
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
STL
Perron, David
$4,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
STL
Schenn, Brayden
$5,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
STL
Thomas, Robert
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 2
STL
Kyrou, Jordan
$758,333
RW
RFA - 2
STL
Bozak, Tyler
$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
STL
De La Rose, Jacob
$900,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
STL
Barbashev, Ivan
$1,475,000
C
RFA - 2
STL
Blais, Samuel
$850,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
STL
Bouwmeester, Jay
$3,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Pietrangelo, Alex
$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Binnington, Jordan
$4,400,000
G
UFA - 2
STL
Gunnarsson, Carl
$1,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
STL
Allen, Jake
$4,350,000
G
UFA - 2
STL
Dunn, Vince
$722,500
LD
RFA - 1
STL
Faulk, Justin
$4,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
STL
Foley, Erik
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 3
STL
Steen, Alexander
$5,750,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Borgman, Andreas
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Nov 8 at 3:14
#1
Blues GM v4
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Although Galchenyuk's hurt right now, that seems like an undersell on him. None of the three players are anything more than depth, and the 2nd probably doesn't sway a team trying to win into moving a pending UFA
Nov 8 at 3:14
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pitts is trying to make a run as well. this trade doesnt help them win
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Nov 8 at 3:15
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
pitts is trying to make a run as well. this trade doesnt help them win


Quoting: krakowitz
Although Galchenyuk's hurt right now, that seems like an undersell on him. None of the three players are anything more than depth, and the 2nd probably doesn't sway a team trying to win into moving a pending UFA


So something like Pietrangelo, Parayko, and like 2 firsts is the type of deal they want like he is untouchable.
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Nov 8 at 3:16
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Quoting: krakowitz
Although Galchenyuk's hurt right now, that seems like an undersell on him. None of the three players are anything more than depth, and the 2nd probably doesn't sway a team trying to win into moving a pending UFA


Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
pitts is trying to make a run as well. this trade doesnt help them win


still trying to grasp his skillset. Not really the I know about the most lol.
Nov 8 at 3:24
#5
Who adds what?
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
So something like Pietrangelo, Parayko, and like 2 firsts is the type of deal they want like he is untouchable.


They pass. Pittsburgh already has too many good defensemen and not enough cap space. They gave away Maata this summer.

Since they just traded Phil Kessel for Gachenyuk, the value is whatever Kessel usually gets traded for, after his team has a bad year, so if Pittsburgh is emotionally out of the playoff race at the deadline, you can offer two recent or future first picks and change. If they're still in it, and line chemistry isn't clicking, build something around a couple of top line wings, maybe starting with Schenn?

As a Caps fan, I support the above trade, though. Do it.
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Nov 8 at 3:26
#6
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
So something like Pietrangelo, Parayko, and like 2 firsts is the type of deal they want like he is untouchable.


They'd probably be looking for a "hockey deal" if they were to move him right now. They obviously saw things they like with him since they traded for him, and he hasn't really been able to showcase any of that yet due to injuries. They probably just hold off for now until they know what he can be with them
Nov 8 at 3:40
#7
DomCholette
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Maybe more something like: Bozak + Kostin as the Pens wants to go for the big run... and getting a 3C would help.
Nov 8 at 3:46
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I'd do that, I like Toropchenko, and the second would be nice, just take out MacEachern and Sanford bc we're at 49/50 contracts iirc, and they have basically no value (or take back like two AHL forwards, we have enough already...) And Galch really hasn't been that good in a few years, and he's been TERRIBLE this year, I do expect that to get better, as he adjusts to the pens system...
Nov 8 at 3:57
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Quoting: Eli
They pass. Pittsburgh already has too many good defensemen and not enough cap space. They gave away Maata this summer.

Since they just traded Phil Kessel for Gachenyuk, the value is whatever Kessel usually gets traded for, after his team has a bad year, so if Pittsburgh is emotionally out of the playoff race at the deadline, you can offer two recent or future first picks and change. If they're still in it, and line chemistry isn't clicking, build something around a couple of top line wings, maybe starting with Schenn?

As a Caps fan, I support the above trade, though. Do it.


I thought they gave away Maatta because he couldn't beat out JJ in the playoffs.
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Nov 8 at 4:17
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Yeah his value is not high but that package does not have anything Pittsburgh would be willing to move him for. Like others have said he has been hurt and they haven't even really seen what he brings and I think they like him with Malkin who has also been hurt. Probably not going to move him during the season.
Nov 8 at 4:27
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
So something like Pietrangelo, Parayko, and like 2 firsts is the type of deal they want like he is untouchable.


Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
still trying to grasp his skillset. Not really the I know about the most lol.


Holy flipping their words. They were brief and correct.
Nov 8 at 4:51
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Holy flipping their words. They were brief and correct.


I’m just asking dude I don’t know if he is worth a lot and is untouchable or just not worth a crap.
Nov 8 at 7:08
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I don’t think they’d trade him right now. He’s only played like 6-7 games. And they just bumped him to Crosby’s wing. They’ll probably want to see what he can do there first. If they’d trade him, they’d want a right handed top 6 winger in return as part of the deal
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Nov 8 at 8:28
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Quoting: AFOX10900
I'd do that, I like Toropchenko, and the second would be nice, just take out MacEachern and Sanford bc we're at 49/50 contracts iirc, and they have basically no value (or take back like two AHL forwards, we have enough already...) And Galch really hasn't been that good in a few years, and he's been TERRIBLE this year, I do expect that to get better, as he adjusts to the pens system...


Galch should be playing center.I know he isn’t great in the circle but that’s where he thrives.
Nov 8 at 8:35
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Quoting: Chopper02
Galch should be playing center.I know he isn’t great in the circle but that’s where he thrives.


Rly... Ik ARZ tried him there... I would assume there's a reason that Schmaltz (and Dvorak Hayton Stepan Big Soda etc) is there now and Galch isn't (along with the fact that they fleeceed the **** out of PIT)
Nov 8 at 8:55
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Quoting: AFOX10900
Rly... Ik ARZ tried him there... I would assume there's a reason that Schmaltz (and Dvorak Hayton Stepan Big Soda etc) is there now and Galch isn't (along with the fact that they fleeceed the **** out of PIT)


He barely played center there, but he’s also had his best seasons in his career while playing center. Problem is that he’s not that great defensively which is why he was moved to the wing. Arizona had drafted Hayton before trading for Galchenyuk. Then they had a chance to get Kessel. They had to make cap space for him so why not use the guy for that since he was only signed for another year?
 
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