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Escaping Holland hell

Created by: StevieD
Initial Creation Date: Nov 9, 2019
Published: Nov 9 at 6:20 pm
Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings
Team Explanation
Yzerman convinces Krug and Piet that there is something good brewing. Abby and Nielsen have to be bought out.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Athanasiou, Andreas5$5,500,000
Bertuzzi, Tyler5$5,500,000
Mantha, Anthony5$6,500,000
Hirose, Taro2$1,500,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny2$1,500,000
Fabbri, Robby2$1,500,000
Perlini, Brendan2$1,500,000
Ho-Sang, Joshua2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Krug, Torey5$8,000,000
Pietrangelo, Alex5$9,500,000
Crawford, Corey3$4,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Byfield, Quinton3$1,000,000
Trades
DET
  1. Ho-Sang, Joshua [RFA Rights]
NYI
  1. Veleno, Joseph
DET
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Helm, Darren ($1,500,000 retained)
Buyouts
  • Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
  • Frans Nielsen: $3,416,667
  • Justin Abdelkader: $1,805,556
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Darren Helm: $1,500,000 (38.96%)
Buried
  • Taro Hirose: $425,000 ($1,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DET
DET
WSH
DET
SJS
DET
DET
DET
2021
DET
DET
DET
VGK
EDM
DET
DET
DET
DET
2022
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,035,555$0$2,707,500$464,445
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$5,500,000
LW, RW
RFA
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
DET
Mantha, Anthony
$6,500,000
RW, LW
RFA
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$5,500,000
C, LW, RW
RFA
Byfield, Quinton
$1,000,000
DET
Zadina, Filip
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 2
DET
Fabbri, Robby
$1,500,000
LW, C
RFA
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
$894,166
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
Ho-Sang, Joshua
$1,500,000
RW, C
RFA
DET
Svechnikov, Evgeny
$1,500,000
LW
RFA
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
$3,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Perlini, Brendan
$1,500,000
RW, LW
RFA
DET
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Pietrangelo, Alex
$9,500,000
RD
UFA
Crawford, Corey
$4,000,000
G
UFA
Krug, Torey
$8,000,000
LD
UFA
DET
Hronek, Filip
$714,166
RD
RFA - 1
DET
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
DET
Nemeth, Patrik
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
DET
Seider, Moritz
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
DET
Cholowski, Dennis
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
$6,083,333
C
UFA - 1

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Nov 9 at 6:22
#1
y i k e s
Joined: Sep 2019
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Have they also had a few cases of brews by the time they signed the contract
Nov 9 at 6:22
#2
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,505
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what the hell is that veleno trade?
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Nov 9 at 6:23
#3
Brigid1011
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 209
Likes: 92
Quoting: sens65
what the hell is that veleno trade?


I was just going to say Veleno for Ho Sang??? Thought Detroit was high on him. Just offer a pick if you want Ho Sang
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Nov 9 at 6:24
#4
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 7,659
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You can forget Krug. He loves Boston, they love him. He isn’t going anywhere.
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Nov 9 at 6:40
#5
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 16,345
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Ho Sang doesn't have any value, No way in hell Detroit moves Veleno for him.
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Nov 9 at 6:45
#6
Matthew Bailey
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 148
Likes: 46
Yea you're high. We could have gotten Ho-Sang for free this year if we wanted him, and no team did. No way would we spend arguably our top center prospect on him. Corey Crawford is already old and washed, if you give that man a 3-year 4 million contract, especially to us, he is just gonna kick back and take his paycheck. I have also heard that Krug really likes Boston, the only leverage we have is that we can offer him more than Boston can, and he would be coming home if he signs here. Still a long shot because Boston is going to do everything they can to try and keep him, and we would probably end up overpaying, and by the time his contract is done it could look bad. And Peitrangelo is resigning with St. Louis probably before the season is even done, so you can forget about that. I would not recommend buying out Nielsen, but with the cap ceiling going up and his contract being basically immovable it might be enviable after this year if some of the young prospects are really pushing, because his offense is just gone. We can just sit Abby in the press box until his contract is done, or waive him like we did with Ericsson in his last year. Also just why is Byfield at $1,000,000, its $925,000 for entry level contracts. Also without all your free agent signing which won't happen, this team is basically the same. Yzerman has already been the most active GM in the league in just the first month alone, imagine how different this team will look by summer. A lot more people besides Helm will be gone, although his return is reasonable, but we will probably have to retain %50.
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Nov 9 at 6:54
#7
Sabres are elite
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,590
Likes: 570
You just acquired two of the worst contracts in the league... Krug and Pietro is overkill. Spend that money up front or save it to pay for your youngsters
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Nov 9 at 7:52
#8
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,348
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Quoting: Gofnut999
You can forget Krug. He loves Boston, they love him. He isn’t going anywhere.


I was discussing this with a Bruins fan weeks ago he had Krug going to Detroit in a trade. If Boston wins the cup this season they let Krug go because they aren't going to give the $8M+ and 5-7 years that other teams will be more happy to pay him. If Boston loses in the cup final or the conference final I think he'd might take a discount and 1 or 2 years because Boston gives him the best chance at a cup. That's just my opinion and if he does leave Boston signing with the Wings isn't guaranteed but he did grow up 20 minutes way from Little Caesars Arena.

Trading Veleno for Ho-Sang would be like trading Larkin because we have Abdelkader.
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Nov 9 at 7:53
#9
Joined: Jan 2017
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Quoting: aedoran
I was discussing this with a Bruins fan weeks ago he had Krug going to Detroit in a trade. If Boston wins the cup this season they let Krug go because they aren't going to give the $8M+ and 5-7 years that other teams will be more happy to pay him. If Boston loses in the cup final or the conference final I think he'd might take a discount and 1 or 2 years because Boston gives him the best chance at a cup. That's just my opinion and if he does leave Boston signing with the Wings isn't guaranteed but he did grow up 20 minutes way from Little Caesars Arena.

Trading Veleno for Ho-Sang would be like trading Larkin because we have Abdelkader.


Krug will sign for 5-6 years at 7-7.5 in Boston.
Nov 9 at 7:55
#10
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Krug will sign for 5-6 years at 7-7.5 in Boston.


How sure are you?
Nov 9 at 7:55
#11
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,678
Likes: 854
im all in on chasing the top 4 dmen but maybe its more for picks come the expansion draft when team are about to lose guys
Nov 9 at 7:56
#12
Joined: Jan 2017
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Quoting: aedoran
How sure are you?


95%.
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Nov 9 at 8:06
#13
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Quoting: Gofnut999
95%.


Ok. I was going to suggest a friendly non monetary wager but you seem to confident about it.
Nov 9 at 8:14
#14
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,348
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Quoting: Skyraider112
You just acquired two of the worst contracts in the league... Krug and Pietro is overkill. Spend that money up front or save it to pay for your youngsters


I agree Pietro isn't going to sign in Detroit. If Boston was going to let Krug go Detroit being his home town would be one of the reasons he' sign here. I would also steer clear of Crawford.
Nov 10 at 2:52
#15
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Quoting: Gofnut999
95%.


I was looking for info on Krug and 3 different and credible sites all have quoted Krug saying he would take less to stay in Boston. Now I really glad I didn't ask about a friendly wager.
 
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