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Marc Bergevin is an underrated GM

Created by: SevenLeg
Initial Creation Date: Nov 10, 2019
Published: Nov 10 at 10:12 am
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Since 2017, Bergevin has traded away 20 players and acquired 17.
Combined production of the 17 players acquired : 152g, 250a, 402pts
Combined production of the 20 players traded : 78g, 161a, 239pts
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$76,753,808$0$3,977,500$4,746,192
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
$763,333
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Kinkaid, Keith
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2

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Nov 10 at 10:38
#1
y i k e s
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 770
Likes: 188
Trading things like Subban obviously tore him apart and looked even more shady after Weber was injured for so long. But Weber really has become a trade ( that even I made fun) that i think everyone is going to forget about that is, is one the best trades he’s made. Subban looks not right on every team he’s bounced from except Montreal really. Whereas when Weber moved from Nash to MTL; when Weber plays he really helps Montreal our on and off the ice. He looks a lot better in MTL then he did in the end of his Nashville career.
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Nov 10 at 10:57
#2
math731
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 559
I think the Petrys trade is a real home run... He is so good and if MB ever decides to trade him at the TDL or during the draft (because of Romanov, Brook and Norlinder) he will get way more than what he gave for him back then
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Nov 10 at 11:10
#3
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 845
Likes: 248
I think the criticism is more a function of a few years where it seemed like he had no plan at all. Trafing for the sake of trading. Signing because he could. Last couple years, we have seen the GM that he was when he took the team. He can be a shark. Just needs to stick with the plan.
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Nov 10 at 1:13
#4
habs_fan
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,455
Likes: 488
and the drafting is the biggest thing

evans primeau in the 7th round

brook romanov in the 2nd

jems boys jems
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Nov 10 at 1:33
#5
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 985
Likes: 407
Quoting: habs_fan123
and the drafting is the biggest thing

evans primeau in the 7th round

brook romanov in the 2nd

jems boys jems


Definitely. Dont forget Norlinder and Ylonen. Look at how drafting improved since the period between mcdonagh and sergachev
Nov 10 at 1:57
#6
Molson beer is meh
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,502
Likes: 955
For me, at the time, the most frustrating part was when Bergevin was selling to the fans and media that the team issues were because of “attitude”.

And no one was buying that back then, and I mean NO ONE. Shipping out 2/3 of MTLs elite core (Subban and Pacioretty), not to mention trading what was once their most highly rated “center” prospect in Galchenyuk for, again back then, a widely considered bust in Domi.

Glad to be proven wrong.



HOWEVER!!!!! Let’s not forget that Bergevin completely failed at his initial “five year plan” when he first took the GM job for the Habs. His “reset” now looks fantastic don’t get me wrong, but it took him a while for him to find his footing.


One last thing, while trading (no one saw that coming), drafting, and pro scouting (finding guys like Byron, etc.) have emerged as true skills of Bergevin. Contract negotiations is something he needs to work on. giving Subban 9mil AAV and Price 8years max term... not his greatest moves...
Nov 10 at 4:33
#7
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 2,229
Likes: 580
Quoting: Blazingbat11
For me, at the time, the most frustrating part was when Bergevin was selling to the fans and media that the team issues were because of “attitude”.

And no one was buying that back then, and I mean NO ONE. Shipping out 2/3 of MTLs elite core (Subban and Pacioretty), not to mention trading what was once their most highly rated “center” prospect in Galchenyuk for, again back then, a widely considered bust in Domi.

Glad to be proven wrong.



HOWEVER!!!!! Let’s not forget that Bergevin completely failed at his initial “five year plan” when he first took the GM job for the Habs. His “reset” now looks fantastic don’t get me wrong, but it took him a while for him to find his footing.


One last thing, while trading (no one saw that coming), drafting, and pro scouting (finding guys like Byron, etc.) have emerged as true skills of Bergevin. Contract negotiations is something he needs to work on. giving Subban 9mil AAV and Price 8years max term... not his greatest moves...


Why does he failed the 5 years plan ? We were good, just didn’t won a Stanley Cup... when everyone got older, he started the reset
Nov 10 at 5:52
#8
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 1,227
i think the biggest reason why he's underappreciated is because he's learn't from his mistakes. he has changed his philosophy in regards to personnel, trades and drafting. he had a habit of adding mediocre 4th liners, and trading away 2nd rd picks. now he's learnt from that and has hired an excellent ahl coach to help the development system, excellent associate and assitant coaches in muller, richardson and ducharme. the philosophy of the team is now speed, skill and grittniness. he made a mistake in signing karl alzner because that type of d-man just dpesnt fit in the nhl no more. look atwho they drafted now in the past 2-3 drafts. quick thinking, highy skilled, speedy defensemen. he's underrated because he's learnt from his mistakes. he's taking a patient approach and it is paying off. yeah he got really lucky last year, whne caufield fell in his lap (still amazes me how teams didn;t draft him in the top 7). this team is gonna be really good. mete is getting better and better. he's a bergevin pick. ppl forget he's only 21 lol. suzuki, KK, evans, fluery (can throw some solid hits eh! ) ylonen, norlinder, struble, caufield, priemeau, etc. thats one hell of a young core thats only going to get better. i still think that his most underrated move was hiring joel bouchard. the previous coach had no idea how to develop players IMO. Bouchard is something else. go watch his videos. he's such a motivational and smart guy. if he can start developing nhl players in laval, this team really is set. we saw how great evans looked
 
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