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Taylor Hall wont be A golden knight

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Team: 2019-20 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 10, 2019
Published: Nov. 11, 2019
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It can’t, we need defence. If something try and Grab A Gustafsson or a Risto or even a Josh Manson.
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Nov. 11, 2019 at 12:01 a.m.
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YOU'RE NOT GETTING MANSON unless you move Glass...
Nov. 11, 2019 at 12:23 a.m.
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Quoting: AFOX10900
YOU'RE NOT GETTING MANSON unless you move Glass...


Would you stop with that manson thing! He isn’t a top defenseman in that league. He is a good defender, and have a certain role with anaheim but he doesn’t have the stats of a top defenseman. He is swcond pairing defenseman at best on a playoff team. The fact that he play a higher role with anaheim doesn’t mean he is better then in reality. There a reason anaheim is not a playoff team, there best players aren’t good as the best players on opposing team. Stop overrating your entire staff
Nov. 11, 2019 at 12:31 a.m.
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Would you stop with that manson thing! He isn’t a top defenseman in that league. He is a good defender, and have a certain role with anaheim but he doesn’t have the stats of a top defenseman. He is swcond pairing defenseman at best on a playoff team. The fact that he play a higher role with anaheim doesn’t mean he is better then in reality. There a reason anaheim is not a playoff team, there best players aren’t good as the best players on opposing team. Stop overrating your entire staff


Thank you
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Nov. 11, 2019 at 12:39 a.m.
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Quoting: AFOX10900
YOU'RE NOT GETTING MANSON unless you move Glass...


Yea if we were moving Glass for Manson we get a 1st a 2nd as well
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:06 a.m.
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Yall forgetting that anahiem is still contending right now, why would they move manson at all
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:34 a.m.
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Give us Theodore and a pick maybe we’ll give you manson
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:38 a.m.
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Yall forgetting that anahiem is still contending right now, why would they move manson at all


LOL the ducks are definitely not contending
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:51 a.m.
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LOL the ducks are definitely not contending


They have 9 wins so far, they arent LA
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:53 a.m.
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They have 9 wins so far, they arent LA


6th in their div not passing any of those teams also going to be getting passed by the sharks but ya real contenders... won’t come close to making the playoffs
Nov. 11, 2019 at 2:23 a.m.
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6th in their div not passing any of those teams also going to be getting passed by the sharks but ya real contenders... won’t come close to making the playoffs


Vancouver Vegas and the Yotes could all fall off at any point, 2 of those teams are know for it. Sharks rely on Jones, if he doesnt get back to form they wont make it
Nov. 11, 2019 at 6:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Would you stop with that manson thing! He isn’t a top defenseman in that league. He is a good defender, and have a certain role with anaheim but he doesn’t have the stats of a top defenseman. He is swcond pairing defenseman at best on a playoff team. The fact that he play a higher role with anaheim doesn’t mean he is better then in reality. There a reason anaheim is not a playoff team, there best players aren’t good as the best players on opposing team. Stop overrating your entire staff


A. I'm happy with him on the first pair, and I'm not overrating him, ik Glass will be better, but ANA has 0 RD, and a ton of centers... That's why it's gonna take an insane overpay to get Manson
Nov. 11, 2019 at 9:23 a.m.
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Vancouver Vegas and the Yotes could all fall off at any point, 2 of those teams are know for it. Sharks rely on Jones, if he doesnt get back to form they wont make it


curious as to why you think vegas would fall off?

yotes play a sustainable game, i think they're here to stay, and vancouver is much improved. given the history i get it though, just not vegas
Nov. 11, 2019 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Would you stop with that manson thing! He isn’t a top defenseman in that league. He is a good defender, and have a certain role with anaheim but he doesn’t have the stats of a top defenseman. He is swcond pairing defenseman at best on a playoff team. The fact that he play a higher role with anaheim doesn’t mean he is better then in reality. There a reason anaheim is not a playoff team, there best players aren’t good as the best players on opposing team. Stop overrating your entire staff


Lindholm is better than Manson.
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Nov. 11, 2019 at 10:21 a.m.
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Lindholm is better than Manson.


And by a miles. Manson is a average shutdown defenseman.
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Nov. 11, 2019 at 10:22 a.m.
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A. I'm happy with him on the first pair, and I'm not overrating him, ik Glass will be better, but ANA has 0 RD, and a ton of centers... That's why it's gonna take an insane overpay to get Manson


So for you manson is a first pair defenseman?
Nov. 11, 2019 at 10:32 a.m.
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So for you manson is a first pair defenseman?


yes?
Nov. 11, 2019 at 10:57 a.m.
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yes?


That is exactly what i try to show you. He is not a first Pair defenseman, the fact that anaheim doesn’t have a true first pair defenseman doesn’t increase is value. Right now gudbranson see more ice time then him and is metrics number where better when he was sluted in the 5 defenseman spot back a few season ago, is number started to drastically change with is ice time increase. That the reason why the ducks isnt a playoff team. Your best players aren’t good enough. Would he be a good second pairing defenseman certainly but if he is your true first right handed pair defenseman you will continue to miss playoff.
Nov. 11, 2019 at 11:34 a.m.
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curious as to why you think vegas would fall off?

yotes play a sustainable game, i think they're here to stay, and vancouver is much improved. given the history i get it though, just not vegas


I said they could. Vegas D needs to improve and they may run Fleury into the ground the way Subban is playing. Same questions with Vancouver. Arizonas secondary scoring is unproven over a full season.
Nov. 11, 2019 at 11:44 a.m.
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That is exactly what i try to show you. He is not a first Pair defenseman, the fact that anaheim doesn’t have a true first pair defenseman doesn’t increase is value. Right now gudbranson see more ice time then him and is metrics number where better when he was sluted in the 5 defenseman spot back a few season ago, is number started to drastically change with is ice time increase. That the reason why the ducks isnt a playoff team. Your best players aren’t good enough. Would he be a good second pairing defenseman certainly but if he is your true first right handed pair defenseman you will continue to miss playoff.


A. Manson's metrics are generally fantastic, and B, just bc he doesn't have value to you doesn't mean he doesn't have value to ANA
Nov. 11, 2019 at 12:18 p.m.
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A. Manson's metrics are generally fantastic, and B, just bc he doesn't have value to you doesn't mean he doesn't have value to ANA

Is metric isn’t good the past three years and that’s the values he have. He isnt a first pairing defenseman and thats its. Thats why anaheim suck because they have players who have to play in a spot that isnt them. People around the league doesn’t care where manson is sluted in anaheim lineup the team are looking at what he bring and right now he isn’t bringing first pair stuff. The points are not there, the ice time isn’t there, the metrics at even strengh isnt good. You can keep living in your unicorn world but in the real one manson is just a average defenseman. He doesn’t do anything to justify a place with the top defenseman in that league. Is number are average and that it
Nov. 11, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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Vancouver Vegas and the Yotes could all fall off at any point, 2 of those teams are know for it. Sharks rely on Jones, if he doesnt get back to form they wont make it

Only thing Ducks are contending for is the draft lottery
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:25 p.m.
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Is metric isn’t good the past three years and that’s the values he have. He isnt a first pairing defenseman and thats its. Thats why anaheim suck because they have players who have to play in a spot that isnt them. People around the league doesn’t care where manson is sluted in anaheim lineup the team are looking at what he bring and right now he isn’t bringing first pair stuff. The points are not there, the ice time isn’t there, the metrics at even strengh isnt good. You can keep living in your unicorn world but in the real one manson is just a average defenseman. He doesn’t do anything to justify a place with the top defenseman in that league. Is number are average and that it


then he won't get traded, he's too valuable to the ducks lol, how hard is that to understand lol
Nov. 11, 2019 at 1:44 p.m.
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then he won't get traded, he's too valuable to the ducks lol, how hard is that to understand lol


Stop pretending he is a first pair defenseman. No one will trade for manson, he is a trash can anaheim is a cksker team.
Nov. 11, 2019 at 2:06 p.m.
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Stop pretending he is a first pair defenseman. No one will trade for manson, he is a trash can anaheim is a cksker team.


THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!! (minus the last part, I still have hope, but ik it's unlikely that we do good this year)
Nov. 11, 2019 at 2:21 p.m.
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THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!! (minus the last part, I still have hope, but ik it's unlikely that we do good this year)


You have hope that he will finally turn into a first defenseman?? Stop dreaming plus they won’t be able to keep everyone in seattle expansion draft and lindholm mahura and one of guhle or larsson will likely be the other protected dman. Anaheim should trade either manson or fowler and get protected assets and players who will grow with the forward core that murray has been builted the last few season
 
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