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trade ideas

Created by: nmulrich86
Initial Creation Date: Nov 11, 2019
Published: Nov 11 at 12:49 pm
Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings
Team Explanation
I doubt these trades happen, roster is based on what injuries look like right now
Trades
DET
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
EDM
  1. Svechnikov, Evgeny
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (VGK)
DET
  1. Hall, Taylor
NJD
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (DET)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (DET)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (DET)
Buyouts
  • Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
  • Xavier Ouellet: $216,667
Buried
  • Jonathan Ericsson: $3,175,000 ($4,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DET
DET
WSH
DET
SJS
DET
DET
DET
2021
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
2022
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$73,050,790$145,000$2,447,500$8,449,210
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
DET
Fabbri, Robby
$900,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Hall, Taylor
$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
$3,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Mantha, Anthony
$3,300,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Erne, Adam
$1,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Nielsen, Frans
$5,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Perlini, Brendan
$874,125
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Smith, Givani
$714,166
LW
RFA - 2
DET
Ehn, Christoffer
$759,167
C, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Helm, Darren
$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
Nemeth, Patrik
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
DET
Hronek, Filip
$714,166
RD
RFA - 2
DET
Howard, Jimmy
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
DET
Bowey, Madison
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
DET
McIlrath, Dylan
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
DET
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Cholowski, Dennis
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
DET
Green, Mike
$5,375,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DET
Hirose, Taro
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
DET
Daley, Trevor
$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Franzen, Johan
$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 1
DET
Biega, Alex
$825,000
RD
UFA - 1
DET
Abdelkader, Justin
$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
$6,083,333
C
UFA - 2
DET
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3

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Nov 11 at 12:53
#1
Leafs
Joined: May 2019
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for a team thats not making the playoffs, is it really worth giving up athanasiou and picks for a guy who's gonna be a rental and leave you in the offseason? hall's said a numerous amount of times that he wants to play for a chance to win soon, and Detroit would certainly not be one of his top choices
Nov 11 at 12:56
#2
StevieY19!!
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 93
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Quoting: leafs101
for a team thats not making the playoffs, is it really worth giving up athanasiou and picks for a guy who's gonna be a rental and leave you in the offseason? hall's said a numerous amount of times that he wants to play for a chance to win soon, and Detroit would certainly not be one of his top choices


Ya, the hall trade literally makes no sense and trading for him will not make the red wings a playoff team.
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Nov 11 at 1:01
#3
Thread Starter
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I was just looking to find someone for AA, I do not think he is part of the plans going forward for Detroit, as for the hall trade I should have stated it is based on him resigning with Detroit, if not the trade does not happen, I believe Detroit will have about 14 RFA's to deal with in the offseason.
Nov 11 at 1:16
#4
Leafs
Joined: May 2019
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Quoting: nmulrich86
I was just looking to find someone for AA, I do not think he is part of the plans going forward for Detroit, as for the hall trade I should have stated it is based on him resigning with Detroit, if not the trade does not happen, I believe Detroit will have about 14 RFA's to deal with in the offseason.


I just don't know that its the right time for Detroit to go for a guy like hall. I still think they have some internal growth to do first i.e. they need another top5 pick or two at least and some time for their young guys develop before they look into FAs. Lafreniere or byfield would be a huge step forward, then I think they could use a top d and goalie prospect, let them develop 2-3 years, then they'll be looking good and they can look at FAs. Its gonna be real tough for them to rebuild and get back to the playoffs in the atlantic
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Nov 11 at 1:21
#5
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,362
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Quoting: leafs101
for a team thats not making the playoffs, is it really worth giving up athanasiou and picks for a guy who's gonna be a rental and leave you in the offseason? hall's said a numerous amount of times that he wants to play for a chance to win soon, and Detroit would certainly not be one of his top choices


As a Wings fan I have to agree. Now I personally think Svechnikov for Puljujärvi value wise is pretty even and I'm probably in the minority there. I'm not sure I'd even make that trade. A couple of seasons ago Svechnikov had a great camp and pre-season but didn't get called up because Holland wasn't ready to admit the Wings need to start over. Then last offseason right before Svechnikov is going to get he shot he blows he tears his ACL and in out for the season. So basically he got screwed and then blows his knee out and he never complained and always had a smile on his face. His attitude was it's no problem I'm just going to work hard but I'm still going to make it. Then you have Puljujärvi who things aren't working out even though he has been given chance after chance playing 139 games over 3 season and now he has decided it not him its the team demands a trade. Since Edmonton hasn't traded him he has gone home until he gets his way.

if Svechnikov doesn't have a future with the Wings and has a chance to play for another NHL team I'm all for him being traded to a team where he can play because he deserves it.
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Nov 11 at 1:52
#6
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun 2015
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Quoting: leafs101
I just don't know that its the right time for Detroit to go for a guy like hall. I still think they have some internal growth to do first i.e. they need another top5 pick or two at least and some time for their young guys develop before they look into FAs. Lafreniere or byfield would be a huge step forward, then I think they could use a top d and goalie prospect, let them develop 2-3 years, then they'll be looking good and they can look at FAs. Its gonna be real tough for them to rebuild and get back to the playoffs in the atlantic


I agree that they need more top picks, I do not think they will trade for Hall, I just don't see AA staying a red wing, I would love the wings to get byfield.
Nov 11 at 1:53
#7
Leafs
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Quoting: nmulrich86
I agree that they need more top picks, I do not think they will trade for Hall, I just don't see AA staying a red wing, I would love the wings to get byfield.


why no AA? like is there an actual reason or fans just don't like him or what
Nov 11 at 2:03
#8
Thread Starter
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Quoting: leafs101
why no AA? like is there an actual reason or fans just don't like him or what


It is more based on the contract talks , because he has been a hold out, if they can come to agreement that works for the team and him I would definitely like to keep him he is a nice piece to have.
Nov 12 at 9:09
#9
Matthew Bailey
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 148
Likes: 46
Quoting: aedoran
As a Wings fan I have to agree. Now I personally think Svechnikov for Puljujärvi value wise is pretty even and I'm probably in the minority there. I'm not sure I'd even make that trade.


BuT tHe AsKiNg PrIcE fOr JP iS a 1sT aNd MiD-tEiR pRoSpEcT. EdMoNtOn ReJeCtS eAsiLy - Edmonton Fans
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Nov 12 at 9:49
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Edited Nov 12 at 10:09
Quoting: wingss
BuT tHe AsKiNg PrIcE fOr JP iS a 1sT aNd MiD-tEiR pRoSpEcT. EdMoNtOn ReJeCtS eAsiLy - Edmonton Fans


Then that's good for Detroit. Have you seen the article posted from the Athletic on JP? As he moves down from the speed of the NHL he gets a lot better and yes he has the NHL skill set scouts and coaches look for except he hasn't been able to use it at NHL speed yet. Now he has had 3yrs to adjust and hasn't been able to and playing pro hockey in Europe isn't helping him adjust at all. I personally think he should be in the KHL it would be the best place for him right now. I also completely understand why Edmonton wants that much for him he's still young and he was a high draft pick. But I think the Wings should steer clear they aren't far enough along in the rebuild to take risks like that. In Hollands last 2 drafts he has taken players that everybody in front of the Wings passed on.
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Nov 15 at 7:06
#11
Matthew Bailey
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Quoting: aedoran
Then that's good for Detroit. Have you seen the article posted from the Athletic on JP? As he moves down from the speed of the NHL he gets a lot better and yes he has the NHL skill set scouts and coaches look for except he hasn't been able to use it at NHL speed yet. Now he has had 3yrs to adjust and hasn't been able to and playing pro hockey in Europe isn't helping him adjust at all. I personally think he should be in the KHL it would be the best place for him right now. I also completely understand why Edmonton wants that much for him he's still young and he was a high draft pick. But I think the Wings should steer clear they aren't far enough along in the rebuild to take risks like that. In Hollands last 2 drafts he has taken players that everybody in front of the Wings passed on.


Yea I've read it. I think we should stay away as well. If the asking price is actually that high, I don't think we should risk it. I would give Svech and a 2022 2nd or something like that but that's as high as I would go. Some other team can use their first on him for all I care
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