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Created by: HatterTParty
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 12, 2019
Published: Nov. 12, 2019
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ChiHawk, our debates inspired this thread a little bit. Everyone tell me how far off these are.
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Kovalchuk, Ilya
  2. Turcotte, Alex [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 4th round pick (LAK)
2.
CHI
  1. 2020 5th round pick (TBL)
3.
CHI
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
4.
CHI
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (NYR)
CAR
  1. Crawford, Corey ($3,000,000 retained)
5.
CHI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
6.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$60,945,853$0$5,132,500$20,554,147
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$350,000$350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$2,475,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5

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Nov. 12, 2019 at 9:30 p.m.
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kovalchuk isn't a very positive addition, don't downgrade prospects to grab him. I'd wait until Gustafson can regain a little more value and flip him for more than that. I genuinely don't know much on Connor Murphy, but I'd rather the leafs tack something else onto a kapanen trade to find a better RHD to play with rielly than Murphy- unless he's excellent in his own end and can push the play forward well, and has solid potential- then maybe something like that could work out
Nov. 12, 2019 at 9:39 p.m.
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LAK, OTT, and MTL accept. Other three probably pass. I"m not sure if you can get enough thrown into the first three to make the next three happen, but if so, you've got a decent blue line on a lower budget next fall.
Nov. 12, 2019 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
kovalchuk isn't a very positive addition, don't downgrade prospects to grab him. I'd wait until Gustafson can regain a little more value and flip him for more than that. I genuinely don't know much on Connor Murphy, but I'd rather the leafs tack something else onto a kapanen trade to find a better RHD to play with rielly than Murphy- unless he's excellent in his own end and can push the play forward well, and has solid potential- then maybe something like that could work out


I like your insight, especially on the Murphy trade. I do think you guys could find better, but i also think Murphy for kapanen could be a one for one trade as well.

Gus just seems to be losing too much value too fast now, and I was hoping sikura tacked on would help.

As for kovalchuk, I definitely would be interested to see if playing with Kane and toews would help him. And yes, racking on turcotte for Dach is actually because I strongly dislike Dach and am super super high turcotte. I’ve seen him play many times and he plays with so much speed and intensity. If dach for turcotte could happen straight up though, I’d just do that.
Nov. 12, 2019 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
LAK, OTT, and MTL accept. Other three probably pass. I"m not sure if you can get enough thrown into the first three to make the next three happen, but if so, you've got a decent blue line on a lower budget next fall.


I’ll be honest, if dach for turcotte works straight up, I’d just do that.
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 9:42 p.m.
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LAK, OTT, and MTL accept. Other three probably pass. I"m not sure if you can get enough thrown into the first three to make the next three happen, but if so, you've got a decent blue line on a lower budget next fall.


nope ottawa has no need for zack smith
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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Take Jokiharju back in a heartbeat, don't know how Buffalo fans would react
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.
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Take Jokiharju back in a heartbeat, don't know how Buffalo fans would react


They will react poorly, he was one of the best defenders for us this season, he knows how to play defense and moves the puck.
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:09 p.m.
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Buffalo decline.
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:10 p.m.
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They will react poorly, he was one of the best defenders for us this season, he knows how to play defense and moves the puck.


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Buffalo decline.


Yeaaaaa, bowman is ****ing moron.
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:12 p.m.
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Yeaaaaa, bowman is ****ing moron.


Nylander has seven points this season, doesn't he look good?
Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: HatterTParty
I like your insight, especially on the Murphy trade. I do think you guys could find better, but i also think Murphy for kapanen could be a one for one trade as well.

Gus just seems to be losing too much value too fast now, and I was hoping sikura tacked on would help.

As for kovalchuk, I definitely would be interested to see if playing with Kane and toews would help him. And yes, racking on turcotte for Dach is actually because I strongly dislike Dach and am super super high turcotte. I’ve seen him play many times and he plays with so much speed and intensity. If dach for turcotte could happen straight up though, I’d just do that.


ok I'm not going to comment on dach vs Turcotte simply because I don't know enough about these guys. I do know they're both excellent young centers who went high in the draft, but all that I'd question in a one on one trade is the fact that they could have taken him at 3rd over dach. because they didn't, that leads me to believe that they saw something in him and won't trade down a few games into the season, at a point where neither player has really had the time to be very disappointing thus far.
Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:28 p.m.
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Nylander has seven points this season, doesn't he look good?


Ehhh, he definitely isn’t breaking out like strome did last season. Joker looks amazing for buffalo while nylander doesn’t really have a nailed down spot in the team.
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Nov. 12, 2019 at 10:40 p.m.
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ok I'm not going to comment on dach vs Turcotte simply because I don't know enough about these guys. I do know they're both excellent young centers who went high in the draft, but all that I'd question in a one on one trade is the fact that they could have taken him at 3rd over dach. because they didn't, that leads me to believe that they saw something in him and won't trade down a few games into the season, at a point where neither player has really had the time to be very disappointing thus far.


Oh absolutely right! I completely agree that it’s too early. However, I will that this is just what I would do. Dach was a huge stretch and risk for the team to take. A lot of people in Chicago believe bowman only picked him because he actually nhl ready right away. My problem is that Dach is very slow and extremely lazy. He is decent with his positioning in his own zone, but other times he’s just too slow to get from spot to spot. Also, as a center, his faceoffs are AWFUL!!! I hope he cleans this stuff up, but I still hate that we took him.

Turcotte, on the hand, is everything a modern NHL encapsulates. He’s fast, has great vision, can pass, shoot, and is very aggressive. A great two way forward as well. I completely support his choice to go to college as I believe that is hugely important for the future development.

Essentially, we already had a Dach in Dylan strome. We would have been smarter to get the faster, more reliable turcotte. His ceiling is way higher and he never stops working. I don’t have much faith in Dach mainly because big, slow guys in the faster modern nhl are just frustrating to watch. Dach constantly looks like he needs others to control play for him, and he’s the center. I’ve admitted many times that I know I’m petty on Dach, but I don’t like that this guy May end up being our center for years to come when needs others to make himself better.
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Nov. 13, 2019 at 12:17 a.m.
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That Murphy trade made me laugh. The Joki for Nylander one also made me laugh but that's because I thought it was funny that Bowman started the new Chiarelli era.
Nov. 13, 2019 at 1:09 a.m.
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That Murphy trade made me laugh. The Joki for Nylander one also made me laugh but that's because I thought it was funny that Bowman started the new Chiarelli era.


Murphy trade laughed at because? Remember, I don't care if its straight up Kap for Murph. Murph is an improvement for their RHDs. The Leafs need to offload a player going into next season. I tell another guy earlier in this thread that the Leafs could probably find better, but Murph's contract is decent and they do need to shed a player. Yes, we do not speak on the Joker trade, still fresh in my mind and hurts like hell.
Nov. 13, 2019 at 1:18 a.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
kovalchuk isn't a very positive addition, don't downgrade prospects to grab him. I'd wait until Gustafson can regain a little more value and flip him for more than that. I genuinely don't know much on Connor Murphy, but I'd rather the leafs tack something else onto a kapanen trade to find a better RHD to play with rielly than Murphy- unless he's excellent in his own end and can push the play forward well, and has solid potential- then maybe something like that could work out


Agree, I don't think Dach for Turcotte is far off.
Gus and Sikura is worth more then a 2nd and 3rd. Gus alone is worth a 2nd and 3rd. Sikura has more value to the Hawks then what he's worth right now.
Murphy would be a very solid pairing with Reilly, his advanced stats are top line in the NHL and very responsible stay at home defender...by a landslide the best advanced stats on the Hawks. A 2nd line pairing on a deeper defensive team but 1st line on the Leafs or Hawks paired up with an offensive D guy. Kap for Murphy is a close value, maybe Kap and a 5th or one for one
Nov. 13, 2019 at 1:20 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
That Murphy trade made me laugh. The Joki for Nylander one also made me laugh but that's because I thought it was funny that Bowman started the new Chiarelli era.


You make me laugh with your comments as the Murphy for Kap is pretty even without the pick.
Nov. 13, 2019 at 2:01 a.m.
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You make me laugh with your comments as the Murphy for Kap is pretty even without the pick.


I just don’t see how they want him lmao. Murph might be an upgrade but certainly not at the cost of Kappy.
Nov. 13, 2019 at 4:10 a.m.
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I just don’t see how they want him lmao. Murph might be an upgrade but certainly not at the cost of Kappy.


He would easily be their best defender on the right side and a good pairing with Reilly. Leafs need a reliable stay at home defender obviously, more then they need a complimentary 20 goal, 50 point winger. Scoring is not their problem. Hawks need speed and scoring and have a very deep defensive talent pool joining the show over the next year to two in guys like Boqvist, Beaudin, Mitchell, Holm, Gilbert...the only question is how to move vets on defense.
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Nov. 13, 2019 at 8:19 a.m.
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laugh laugh Right now the Hawks are a non-playoff team, Kovalchuk isn't wasting his time on another non-playoff team. Kovalchuk will only waive for a legit cup contender. And right now that's not the Hawks.
Nov. 13, 2019 at 8:35 a.m.
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laugh laugh Right now the Hawks are a non-playoff team, Kovalchuk isn't wasting his time on another non-playoff team. Kovalchuk will only waive for a legit cup contender. And right now that's not the Hawks.


Lol, I love how that was the one thing on that trade that was addressed. Fair enough, and I tend to agree. Turcotte for Dach straight up it is! Actually, I’d prefer that! Thanks wings fan!!!
 
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