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Trades for untouchables - bored

Created by: yikes
Initial Creation Date: Nov 12, 2019
Published: Nov 13 at 10:44 am
Team: 2019-20 San Jose Sharks
Team Explanation
MTL: I mean not terrible for either team

WPG: sketchy

BUF: SKETCHY

EDM: I think bad for sharks but works I guess idk

COL: Fair for COL but I think SJS would want more

NJD: toss really

VAN: We just needed a goalie I tossed this together
Trades
SJS
  1. Ylönen, Jesse [Reserve List]
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. Juulsen, Noah
MTL
  1. Meier, Timo
SJS
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
  2. Heinola, Ville
  3. Stanley, Logan
  4. Kulikov, Dmitry
WPG
  1. Burns, Brent
SJS
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. McCabe, Jake
BUF
  1. Karlsson, Erik
SJS
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Gagner, Sam
  3. Granlund, Markus
  4. Yamamoto, Kailer
  5. Samorukov, Dmitri
EDM
  1. Couture, Logan
SJS
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Jost, Tyson
  3. Kaut, Martin
COL
  1. Hertl, Tomas
SJS
  1. Zacha, Pavel
  2. Boqvist, Jesper
  3. Bastian, Nathan
NJD
  1. Kane, Evander
SJS
  1. DiPietro, Michael
  2. MacEwen, Zack
VAN
  1. Labanc, Kevin
  2. Gambrell, Dylan
Buyouts
  • Paul Martin: $1,416,667
  • Marc-Édouard Vlasic: $2,464,286
  • Brenden Dillon: $670,000
  • Melker Karlsson: $666,667
  • Joe Thornton: $2,000,000
  • Aaron Dell: $833,333
  • Marcus Sörensen: $600,000
  • Barclay Goodrow: $300,000
  • Dalton Prout: $266,667
  • Patrick Marleau: $700,000
  • Jake McCabe: $425,000
  • Kris Russell: $916,667
  • Sam Gagner: $1,016,667
  • Markus Granlund: $433,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
SJS
PHI
SJS
OTT
PIT
WSH
2021
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
2022
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$44,700,035$660,750$4,955,000$36,799,965
Left WingCenterRight Wing
SJS
Gregor, Noah
$768,333
C
RFA - 2
COL
Jost, Tyson
$885,833
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Ylönen, Jesse
$925,000
RW
RFA
WPG
Vesalainen, Kristian
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 3
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
$2,250,000
C
RFA - 3
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Boqvist, Jesper
$925,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 3
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 2
NJD
Bastian, Nathan
$714,166
RW, C
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
VAN
MacEwen, Zack
$847,500
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
SJS
Simek, Radim
$675,000
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Timmins, Conor
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
SJS
Jones, Martin
$5,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 5
SJS
Ferraro, Mario
$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
VAN
DiPietro, Michael
$811,667
G
RFA - 3
WPG
Heinola, Ville
$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
WPG
Kulikov, Dmitry
$4,333,333
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Samorukov, Dmitri
$825,000
LD
RFA - 3
SJS
Radil, Lukas
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
WPG
Stanley, Logan
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2
SJS
Heed, Tim
$960,000
RD
UFA - 1
COL
Kaut, Martin
$894,167
C
RFA - 3

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Nov 13 at 11:06
#1
Bcarlo25
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I think Karlsson is untouchable for 30 NHL teams, and the sharks are the only one not on that list.
Nov 13 at 11:07
#2
Shibbal18
Joined: Jan 2016
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Sabres is beyond sketchy why would they add another RHD 😂😂
Nov 13 at 11:10
#3
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y i k e s
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres is beyond sketchy why would they add another RHD 😂😂


Quoting: Bcarlo25
I think Karlsson is untouchable for 30 NHL teams, and the sharks are the only one not on that list.


S K E T C H Y

Lol idk I just wanted middelstadt
Nov 13 at 11:11
#4
Bcarlo25
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: yikes
S K E T C H Y

Lol idk I just wanted middelstadt


That’s fair, i just don’t think anyone wants Karlsson. If he was put on waivers tomorrow, I think there’s a pretty good chance he goes unclaimed.
Nov 13 at 11:13
#5
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y i k e s
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
That’s fair, i just don’t think anyone wants Karlsson. If he was put on waivers tomorrow, I think there’s a pretty good chance he goes unclaimed.


I think that’s an exaggeration. It’s a hard sell obviously like most big money contracts. For example I wouldn’t want Marner on the sharks with his current contract but that doesn’t mean he’s useless. Karlsson played very well last night. If he can put together a similar game for the next few weeks before Christmas I’d say he’s turned around and back in form.

I do agree that Karlsson is almost untradable/ moveable
Nov 13 at 11:17
#6
Bcarlo25
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: yikes
I think that’s an exaggeration. It’s a hard sell obviously like most big money contracts. For example I wouldn’t want Marner on the sharks with his current contract but that doesn’t mean he’s useless. Karlsson played very well last night. If he can put together a similar game for the next few weeks before Christmas I’d say he’s turned around and back in form.

I do agree that Karlsson is almost untradable/ moveable


Marner is 21? 22? Not yet in his prime and signed for a bit of an overpay for 6 years. He’ll be solidly in his prime at the end of that contract, with the cap far higher. Tons of value. Karlsson is showing significant signs of decline, turns 30 in a few months, and has 8 more years at 11.5 on his deal. Negative value. Think about what would happen if he was on waivers. The good teams that could use what he brings to the table right now wouldn’t have the cap space to just throw 11.5 in there. The few teams that have that kind of room have to know that by the time they’re ready to contend, he will probably be a disaster. The only team he could make sense with is Seattle.
Nov 13 at 11:19
#7
Thread Starter
y i k e s
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Marner is 21? 22? Not yet in his prime and signed for a bit of an overpay for 6 years. He’ll be solidly in his prime at the end of that contract, with the cap far higher. Tons of value. Karlsson is showing significant signs of decline, turns 30 in a few months, and has 8 more years at 11.5 on his deal. Negative value. Think about what would happen if he was on waivers. The good teams that could use what he brings to the table right now wouldn’t have the cap space to just throw 11.5 in there. The few teams that have that kind of room have to know that by the time they’re ready to contend, he will probably be a disaster. The only team he could make sense with is Seattle.


I didn’t say marner has no value. I said I wouldn’t want him on the sharks as yes a RW would be nice but defensive play has been a problem for our team. And we’d have no cap space unless we lost Vlasic or Karlsson if we’re using him as an example

Marner isn’t the solution for the sharks therefore he’s not needed is what I’m saying. Karlsson most likely would be picked up and I would guarantee it/ bet money. Marner has more value but Karlsson doesn’t have no value is what I’m saying and he would be picked up
Nov 13 at 11:31
#8
Bcarlo25
Joined: May 2018
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Quoting: yikes
I didn’t say marner has no value. I said I wouldn’t want him on the sharks as yes a RW would be nice but defensive play has been a problem for our team. And we’d have no cap space unless we lost Vlasic or Karlsson if we’re using him as an example

Marner isn’t the solution for the sharks therefore he’s not needed is what I’m saying. Karlsson most likely would be picked up and I would guarantee it/ bet money. Marner has more value but Karlsson doesn’t have no value is what I’m saying and he would be picked up


What team would pick him up?
Nov 13 at 11:40
#9
Thread Starter
y i k e s
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
What team would pick him up?


who’s the winning the Stanley Cup this year?

We don’t know cause it hasn’t happened yet, not even close to it.
Nov 13 at 12:00
#10
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: yikes
who’s the winning the Stanley Cup this year?

We don’t know cause it hasn’t happened yet, not even close to it.


Might i remind you what website you’re on. Think about it for a moment. First think about what teams could claim him. Then think about which of those teams would want an 8 year commitment to an aging player.
Nov 13 at 12:14
#11
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y i k e s
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Might i remind you what website you’re on. Think about it for a moment. First think about what teams could claim him. Then think about which of those teams would want an 8 year commitment to an aging player.


I have thoughts on it but this is all ifs ands and buts. If I said - Columbus - who Realistically could, there’s obviously glaring reasons why they wouldn’t. But we don’t know unless he is waived or there’s talks. Which both aren’t happening nor going to happen. No one thought the sharks would get Karlsson; until the day of give or take them it became real loud that the sharks had a legit chance. So I’m just saying you never know and we can’t say “this WONT happen”
Nov 13 at 12:18
#12
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: yikes
I have thoughts on it but this is all ifs ands and buts. If I said - Columbus - who Realistically could, there’s obviously glaring reasons why they wouldn’t. But we don’t know unless he is waived or there’s talks. Which both aren’t happening nor going to happen. No one thought the sharks would get Karlsson; until the day of give or take them it became real loud that the sharks had a legit chance. So I’m just saying you never know and we can’t say “this WONT happen”


Remind me where I said, “this won’t happen.” The whole thing is hypothetical because Karlsson has a no movement clause so i don’t think they could waive him. I said, “i think there’s a pretty good chance he goes unclaimed.” On what planet does that equate to, “this WON’T happen.”
Nov 13 at 12:22
#13
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Remind me where I said, “this won’t happen.” The whole thing is hypothetical because Karlsson has a no movement clause so i don’t think they could waive him. I said, “i think there’s a pretty good chance he goes unclaimed.” On what planet does that equate to, “this WON’T happen.”


I said we not you relax bud. Tell me where I said YOU SAID THIS WONT HAPPEN. You’re taking this a lot more serious then it is
Nov 13 at 12:25
#14
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: yikes
I said we not you relax bud. Tell me where I said YOU SAID THIS WONT HAPPEN. You’re taking this a lot more serious then it is


If you really can’t understand why i thought you were insinuating that i was saying “this won’t happen,” when you quoted me and said, “we can’t say ‘this WONT happen,” then I think you should give your head a shake and take a lap.
Nov 13 at 12:32
#15
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y i k e s
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
If you really can’t understand why i thought you were insinuating that i was saying “this won’t happen,” when you quoted me and said, “we can’t say ‘this WONT happen,” then I think you should give your head a shake and take a lap.


I think you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed kiddo go take a nap
Nov 13 at 12:36
#16
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Isn't SJ typically one of the oldest teams in the league? As such, I'll send you:

Letang, J.Johnson and Hornqvist for Meier
- or -
Oshie and Hagelin for Meier
Nov 13 at 12:40
#17
Thread Starter
y i k e s
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Isn't SJ typically one of the oldest teams in the league? As such, I'll send you:

Letang, J.Johnson and Hornqvist for Meier
- or -
Oshie and Hagelin for Meier


All these trades make us old af yours make us too young
 
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