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Idontevenknowanymore

Created by: wondershrimp
Initial Creation Date: Nov 14, 2019
Published: Nov 14 at 8:16 pm
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
This team is again going nowhere (again). 3-1 vs the Canes in the second? Please end me. Getting ridiculous at this point. A few more years of suffering and the Pegulas will become James Dolan level bad owners. I could be talked into an Eichel trade at this point (this is sarcasm but a part of me thinks it isn't).
Trades
BUF
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
TOR
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Eriksson Ek, Joel
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Reinhart, Sam
BUF
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (MIN)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Larsson, Johan
  2. Girgensons, Zemgus
  3. Sobotka, Vladimír
Additional Details:
anywhere idgaf
BUF
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
EDM
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Sheary, Conor
BUF
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
DET
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
  • Ville Leino: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
MIN
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
MIN
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$80,402,024$0$4,257,500$1,097,976
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
$4,500,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$1,487,500
C
RFA - 2
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Vesey, Jimmy
$2,275,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$700,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Rodrigues, Evan
$2,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,325,000
G
RFA - 1
BUF
Scandella, Marco
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Bogosian, Zach
$5,142,857
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Hunwick, Matt
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Gilmour, John
$700,000
D
UFA - 1

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Nov 14 at 8:26
#1
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 986
Likes: 333
Edm says no.
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Nov 14 at 8:43
#2
BuFfaLoFan
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,877
Likes: 540
That Reinhart trade😂 Minny says yes and then asks if you want to trade Eichel for Parise and Dubnyk😂
Nov 14 at 9:00
#3
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,437
Likes: 1,166
While I know AA's value is no where it was last season but Thompson hasn't even played a NHL game this season. I don't see Yzerman letting him go for this and if he does it will be at the TDL. Yzerman does like AA and with the season he had last year you want to be absolutely sure trading him is the right move or last resort. Plus he has 3 goals and an assist in his last 5 games.
Nov 14 at 10:00
#4
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,841
Likes: 576
The toronto and reinhart trades are hate crimes. Edmonton says no, not sure about detroit. Moving our 4th line is probably fine- yes they can cycle, they really dont score (i mean skinner just bounced one off of larssons ankle, but thats the best you can hope for), and our pk has been brutal, which is something this line handles.
Nov 14 at 10:06
#5
Shibbal18
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 8,372
Likes: 1,666
How do you blame the Pegula's lol, especially what theyve done for the city. Botterill is gun shy after getting completely embarrassed in the ROR trade, he needs to man up and make some tough decisions
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Nov 14 at 10:15
#6
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 43
Likes: 9
Quoting: Shibbal18
How do you blame the Pegula's lol, especially what theyve done for the city. Botterill is gun shy after getting completely embarrassed in the ROR trade, he needs to man up and make some tough decisions


I understand that they've done a lot for the city, but that has no bearing on whether they have run the team well since purchasing it, which they haven't. How can YOU say this is not their fault? They hired Botterill, just as they hired Murray before him. Both have done crappy jobs. Look at Tom Dundon, the owner of the Canes who purchased them in 2017. Two years later and they're a cup contender. Nine years Pegula has owned the team and they have been complete dog**** the whole time.
Nov 14 at 10:20
#7
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 43
Likes: 9
Quoting: sabres89
The toronto and reinhart trades are hate crimes. Edmonton says no, not sure about detroit. Moving our 4th line is probably fine- yes they can cycle, they really dont score (i mean skinner just bounced one off of larssons ankle, but thats the best you can hope for), and our pk has been brutal, which is something this line handles.


I think other teams recognize that Reinhart is a 55 point player without Eichel, not a 70 point player. I may have traded him a little low, but I don't think it is that far off. For the Toronto trade I think that's pretty fair value. Miller just got healthy scratched, and we only gave up a third to get him. You're telling me you wouldn't give up a second and a third for Kapanen? You're probably right about the EDM trade and I don't know about the Detroit one, maybe it doesn't really make much sense.
Nov 14 at 10:52
#8
Shibbal18
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 8,372
Likes: 1,666
Quoting: wondershrimp
I understand that they've done a lot for the city, but that has no bearing on whether they have run the team well since purchasing it, which they haven't. How can YOU say this is not their fault? They hired Botterill, just as they hired Murray before him. Both have done crappy jobs. Look at Tom Dundon, the owner of the Canes who purchased them in 2017. Two years later and they're a cup contender. Nine years Pegula has owned the team and they have been complete dog**** the whole time.


Dundon inherited a good team. Pegula inherited a team on the verge of a rebuild. Ive been sold on how bad GMTM was and his deals put us back a lot of years. So yes they hired one wrong guy, but i wouldnt write them off because of it. They werent even the main decision makers in that time, Lafontaine and Ted Black were the 2 that push Murray at Pegula. Then you look at the Bills (who i personally dont like) and theyre not as much of a joke and even made the playoffs. For now GMTM is to blame for this mess, the Sabres right now are where the experts expected them to be. Botterill does need to do something with this locker room with the assests he has available, i think there is enough data to see what this team needs going forward
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Nov 14 at 11:23
#9
Hurricane Waddell
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,049
Likes: 557
I like to troll ACGM after the Canes beat the Sabres...10 wins in a row.
Nov 14 at 11:42
#10
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,841
Likes: 576
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