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Created by: BeterChiarelli
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 15, 2019
Published: Nov. 15, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
It's only gonna take moving a third of the roster but if it clicks, it could click real good.

If the goaltending holds up, it's a coinflip between Edmonton and Vegas as to who comes out of the Pacific. If they squeak by Vegas, they probably make it to the SCF.
Trades
1.
EDM
CGY
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Bitten, Will
  2. Zucker, Jason
  3. 2021 4th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Chiasson, Alex
  2. Gagner, Sam
  3. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Top-3 protected
3.
EDM
  1. McGinn, Brock
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
4.
NYR
  1. Manning, Brandon
  2. Marody, Cooper
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
5.
EDM
  1. Folin, Christian
  2. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
6.
EDM
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
  2. 2020 6th round pick (WPG)
7.
EDM
  1. Harper, Patrick [Reserve List]
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,106,999$0$1,840,000$1,393,001

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$4,125,000$4,125,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$870,000$870,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:27 p.m.
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Jets decline
Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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Jets decline


No they don't
Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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I'd take Granlund as NSH, but not for anything more than a 6th round pick. He may be able to spark some better play out of his brother.
Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:32 p.m.
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I'd take Granlund as NSH, but not for anything more than a 6th round pick. He may be able to spark some better play out of his brother.


Harper's a 5th from two years ago. Do the Preds have any intention to sign him?
Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:33 p.m.
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No they don't


Ya they do. Perreault is much better than russel and not to mention he is actually tradeable without giving up anything. Russel for perreault isn’t happening. Perreault can play anywhere in the lineup and instantly sparks that line which is very helpful on a team like the jets who seem to have new lines every 5 games. Also reading perreault would create a hole we can’t fill while Russel isn’t much of an upgrade on the guys we have like kulikov and beaulieu

So ya, jets decline
Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Harper's a 5th from two years ago. Do the Preds have any intention to sign him?


he's playing well so far this year so not sure honestly -- but yeah, basically just low value for Granlund, whatever that may be.
Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:36 p.m.
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Ya they do. Perreault is much better than russel and not to mention he is actually tradeable without giving up anything. Russel for perreault isn’t happening


A third-line winger producing like a 4th-line winger for a marginally cheaper defender on a team that doesn't actually have an NHL blueline at the moment and a high C/low B-prospect? Since when did Perreault become the second coming of Christ?
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Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:37 p.m.
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he's playing well so far this year so not sure honestly -- but yeah, basically just low value for Granlund, whatever that may be.


All I'd want as the Oilers in terms of a return is someone that might be able to slot into the AHL next season. The difference in value between Harper and a 6th I think is negligible.
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Nov. 15, 2019 at 7:13 p.m.
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The Jets don't have the forward depth to be trading Perreault and Russell isn't much of an improvement on any of the Jets LHD other then Bitetto.

Also Perreault would likely be producing better if Lowry wasn't the least productive center in the league.
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Nov. 15, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
A third-line winger producing like a 4th-line winger for a marginally cheaper defender on a team that doesn't actually have an NHL blueline at the moment and a high C/low B-prospect? Since when did Perreault become the second coming of Christ?


Quoting: MisstheWhalers
The Jets don't have the forward depth to be trading Perreault and Russell isn't much of an improvement on any of the Jets LHD other then Bitetto.

Also Perreault would likely be producing better if Lowry wasn't the least productive center in the league.


@MisstheWhalers Couldn’t say it better myself.

The blue line is better than most say it is. And Russel won’t help it even if we do get him. We need one more top 4 guy. Maybe that’s niku eventually (hopefully) and maybe we just ride it out until buff is back (if he even does) but Russel is no improvement and moving perreault is not the right move for the jets at the moment

And let’s not get sarcastic if you don’t mind.
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The Jets don't have the forward depth to be trading Perreault and Russell isn't much of an improvement on any of the Jets LHD other then Bitetto.

Also Perreault would likely be producing better if Lowry wasn't the least productive center in the league.


Did Vesalainen just fall off a cliff or what? That's the name I would think immediately comes in for Perreault unless he's more comfortable on his off wing.

I'd argue Russell's on par with Beaulieu in terms of talent (value it's not even close, Nathan by a mile) and would be an immediate upgrade over Sbisa, Poolman, and the aforementioned Bitetto.

"And player X would be performing bettwe if he wasn't glued to player Y". Blah, blah, blah. Perreault's production is what it is right now. The fantasy of him playing with any other player does not change the fact that he's on pace for 24 points as of today. I can recognize that Lowry is a sink on production, but that alone cannot dictate any player's value. In the past three years Perreault has trended from average second-line winger to average third line winger. Are you expecting to get a top-4 defender and a pick for him?

Best I'd do is drop the 6th heading to Edmonton and add a 5th Round Pick. Edmonton needs a new third line and the Jets need NHL-capable defencemen. The cap basically washes out, make this work.
Nov. 15, 2019 at 9:17 p.m.
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all those trades are bad
Nov. 15, 2019 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Did Vesalainen just fall off a cliff or what? That's the name I would think immediately comes in for Perreault unless he's more comfortable on his off wing.

I'd argue Russell's on par with Beaulieu in terms of talent (value it's not even close, Nathan by a mile) and would be an immediate upgrade over Sbisa, Poolman, and the aforementioned Bitetto.

"And player X would be performing bettwe if he wasn't glued to player Y". Blah, blah, blah. Perreault's production is what it is right now. The fantasy of him playing with any other player does not change the fact that he's on pace for 24 points as of today. I can recognize that Lowry is a sink on production, but that alone cannot dictate any player's value. In the past three years Perreault has trended from average second-line winger to average third line winger. Are you expecting to get a top-4 defender and a pick for him?

Best I'd do is drop the 6th heading to Edmonton and add a 5th Round Pick. Edmonton needs a new third line and the Jets need NHL-capable defencemen. The cap basically washes out, make this work.


Vesalainen is gonna need a full season in the AHL imo, he has yet to impress and is off to a slow start with the Moose. He's definitely not ready to replace anyone in the Jets top 9 wings yet and he's not a 4th line player.

I'm not sure Russell would be an improvement on Poolman but yeah he's likely an improvement on Sbisa though Sbisa has played alright so far, Kulikov is hit and miss but we're used to that.. Lol..Bitetto isn't good at all and Dahlstrom was great when he played imo so they have plenty of decent depth dmen plus Niku playing well with the Moose, they're not as weak on defense as its made out to be. So is it worth it to trade a good 3rd line winger who can be moved into the top 6 if necessary for a dman that you have similar of already? I'd say it's not.

People really don't grasp how starved for offense anyone who's stuck with Lowry is, shift Copp to the center and put almost anyone else on the other wing and Perreault is likely on a 30-35 point pace instead of 24 as you've mentioned, not a huge difference but pretty typical 3rd line production. Btw Lowry is on pace for 9 points, yes it's that bad.. Lol... And people can give me Lowry's good Corsi numbers/shutdown role blah blah blah but if you play as much as he does you have to produce better then that, period.

Gawd no I don't expect a top 4 D for Perreault.. Lol
Honestly I think a 4th round pick is the best they'd get for him and I like Russell and think the value is fair but I think that Perreault is still more valuable to the Jets then Russell would be. The Jets are very thin up front, they really can't afford to deal Perreault until the season is over, Appleton and Bourque are both out for another month probably and both are downgrades on Perreault, as it stands Maurice only plays his 4th line like 6-8 minutes a night plus Little's unfortunate injury makes keeping Perreault even more necessary.
 
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