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Nov. 16, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.
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well this will get an interesting reaction
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.
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That's a nah from TOR most likely...
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:09 a.m.
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That's a nah from TOR most likely...


its a no, but how much do you think Babcock would be screaming at Dubas if he said no
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:13 a.m.
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I can only hope Toronto doesn't do this. In a couple of seasons when his age starts to catch up with him we will have to listen Toronto fans whine about how expensive he is for the next 5 years.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:23 a.m.
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Habs are not trading their captain for Nylander who makes 7M. Weber, one of the premier shutdown defensemen in the game has 1 less point than Nylander who is a one-dimensional offensive player. Bergevin has a good laugh when he sees that on his phone. He then sees you want to give us Cody Ceci too tears of joy tears of joy. The Habs are not going to be the team to help you with your goaltending issues. If you wanted Kinkaid you should've signed him in the off-season.
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:29 a.m.
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Habs are not trading their captain for Nylander who makes 7M. Weber, one of the premier shutdown defensemen in the game has 1 less point than Nylander who is a one-dimensional offensive player. Bergevin has a good laugh when he sees that on his phone. He then sees you want to give us Cody Ceci too tears of joy tears of joy. The Habs are not going to be the team to help you with your goaltending issues. If you wanted Kinkaid you should've signed him in the off-season.


Actually, there were a lot of Habs fans going on in a hockey forum that I frequent suggesting Nylander for Weber one for one the past few days. I don't want any part of it. He is a good defender but too old and too slow now. Hard pass from the Leafs on this one.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:30 a.m.
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its a no, but how much do you think Babcock would be screaming at Dubas if he said no


KYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYLE!!!!!

That's my guess anyway.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:30 a.m.
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If the Leafs got Shea Weber their whole season turns around. They have no one like him.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:30 a.m.
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I can only hope Toronto doesn't do this. In a couple of seasons when his age starts to catch up with him we will have to listen Toronto fans whine about how expensive he is for the next 5 years.


His age caught up to him 3 seasons ago. It shows more and more each year.
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:32 a.m.
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Habs are not trading their captain for Nylander who makes 7M. Weber, one of the premier shutdown defensemen in the game has 1 less point than Nylander who is a one-dimensional offensive player. Bergevin has a good laugh when he sees that on his phone. He then sees you want to give us Cody Ceci too tears of joy tears of joy. The Habs are not going to be the team to help you with your goaltending issues. If you wanted Kinkaid you should've signed him in the off-season.


Enjoy Weber man, No one else wants him. Everything you said about him was true 4 years ago. Now he's a pp specialist with a big shot who gets burned by speed on the regular.
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: AmericanSniper
Habs are not trading their captain for Nylander who makes 7M. Weber, one of the premier shutdown defensemen in the game has 1 less point than Nylander who is a one-dimensional offensive player. Bergevin has a good laugh when he sees that on his phone. He then sees you want to give us Cody Ceci too tears of joy tears of joy. The Habs are not going to be the team to help you with your goaltending issues. If you wanted Kinkaid you should've signed him in the off-season.


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Actually, there were a lot of Habs fans going on in a hockey forum that I frequent suggesting Nylander for Weber one for one the past few days. I don't want any part of it. He is a good defender but too old and too slow now. Hard pass from the Leafs on this one.


First I'm a habs fan and I wouldnt do it, I just wanna see Leafs line up with Weber ( wayyy better with Weber than Reilly ), + Ceci is too balance the caphit. @AmericanSniper do you know the caphit ? Leafs couldnt sign any goalie over 1M.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:35 a.m.
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Enjoy Weber man, No one else wants him. Everything you said about him was true 4 years ago. Now he's a pp specialist with a big shot who gets burned by speed on the regular.


lol Weber is playing is best hockey since 4-5 years, did you watch a game this year ?
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:37 a.m.
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lol Weber is playing is best hockey since 4-5 years, did you watch a game this year ?


Yes he's slow, really slow. He is all yours.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:38 a.m.
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Yes he's slow, really slow. He is all yours.


been slow all is career lol
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:39 a.m.
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Habs are not trading their captain for Nylander who makes 7M. Weber, one of the premier shutdown defensemen in the game has 1 less point than Nylander who is a one-dimensional offensive player. Bergevin has a good laugh when he sees that on his phone. He then sees you want to give us Cody Ceci too tears of joy tears of joy. The Habs are not going to be the team to help you with your goaltending issues. If you wanted Kinkaid you should've signed him in the off-season.


This was my first impression, here.

You know you can look up how old guys are, though?

Weber and Nylander each have up and down years, but there's just over a decade age difference.

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I can only hope Toronto doesn't do this. In a couple of seasons when his age starts to catch up with him we will have to listen Toronto fans whine about how expensive he is for the next 5 years.


Some MTL fans on here like to claim that if Weber gets bought out after he's 36 (in three years) NSH pays some of the buyout and takes all of the cap hit. I think they're confusing the rules and that would only be if he had signed the contract as a 36 year old, but I have no idea. Would love to see a link to the rule, or a good explanation of how it specifically affects Weber, from anyone who knows where to find it.

If Weber is nearly free to buy out, and the Leafs feel like Nylander isn't playing up to his contract, then this could be something both teams consider, give or take.
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:41 a.m.
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Enjoy Weber man, No one else wants him. Everything you said about him was true 4 years ago. Now he's a pp specialist with a big shot who gets burned by speed on the regular.


everything you just said about him is wrong so might want to actually watch him play
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been slow all is career lol


Cool. his contract is all yours, I'll keep the younger player who has his entire prime ahead of him.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.
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everything you just said about him is wrong so might want to actually watch him play


Cool story. Keep him and his contract. You know what you can say about any hockey player? When they get old they decline, Weber is old and has no speed already. Nylander is 23 and hasn't reached his ceiling. I'll keep the much more valuable asset thank you.
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:44 a.m.
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This was my first impression, here.

You know you can look up how old guys are, though?

Weber and Nylander each have up and down years, but there's just over a decade age difference.



Some MTL fans on here like to claim that if Weber gets bought out after he's 36 (in three years) NSH pays some of the buyout and takes all of the cap hit. I think they're confusing the rules and that would only be if he had signed the contract as a 36 year old, but I have no idea. Would love to see a link to the rule, or a good explanation of how it specifically affects Weber, from anyone who knows where to find it.

If Weber is nearly free to buy out, and the Leafs feel like Nylander isn't playing up to his contract, then this could be something both teams consider, give or take.


NSH is taking all of it lmao if Weber retires at 39 yo, 24.5M in caphit is going to NSH lmao I will try to find a link for you, Poile take a big risk on that trade
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This was my first impression, here.

You know you can look up how old guys are, though?

Weber and Nylander each have up and down years, but there's just over a decade age difference.



Some MTL fans on here like to claim that if Weber gets bought out after he's 36 (in three years) NSH pays some of the buyout and takes all of the cap hit. I think they're confusing the rules and that would only be if he had signed the contract as a 36 year old, but I have no idea. Would love to see a link to the rule, or a good explanation of how it specifically affects Weber, from anyone who knows where to find it.

If Weber is nearly free to buy out, and the Leafs feel like Nylander isn't playing up to his contract, then this could be something both teams consider, give or take.


They are talking about the cap recapture penalty. If Weber retired, Nashville will pay the majority of that penalty like Vancouver is paying 3 mill or whatever for Luongo. Montreal would pay some but I don't know what it would be. But that only happens if he's retired. If they buy him out its just the standard rules and I don't believe Nashville would pay a dime of that.
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This was my first impression, here.

You know you can look up how old guys are, though?

Weber and Nylander each have up and down years, but there's just over a decade age difference.



Some MTL fans on here like to claim that if Weber gets bought out after he's 36 (in three years) NSH pays some of the buyout and takes all of the cap hit. I think they're confusing the rules and that would only be if he had signed the contract as a 36 year old, but I have no idea. Would love to see a link to the rule, or a good explanation of how it specifically affects Weber, from anyone who knows where to find it.

If Weber is nearly free to buy out, and the Leafs feel like Nylander isn't playing up to his contract, then this could be something both teams consider, give or take.


https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2018/07/the-salary-cap-implications-of-a-shea-weber-early-retirement.html
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Quoting: Eli
This was my first impression, here.

You know you can look up how old guys are, though?

Weber and Nylander each have up and down years, but there's just over a decade age difference.



Some MTL fans on here like to claim that if Weber gets bought out after he's 36 (in three years) NSH pays some of the buyout and takes all of the cap hit. I think they're confusing the rules and that would only be if he had signed the contract as a 36 year old, but I have no idea. Would love to see a link to the rule, or a good explanation of how it specifically affects Weber, from anyone who knows where to find it.

If Weber is nearly free to buy out, and the Leafs feel like Nylander isn't playing up to his contract, then this could be something both teams consider, give or take.


Its not if he is bought out, its if he retires early. Basically MTL has Nashvilles balls in a sling if he chooses to retire, then they get hit with the cap recapture penalty which varies depending on what year he retire but if he chooses to retire in the second last year of the contract its a 17 million cap hit for Nashville, if he retires before the final year of the contract its 24 million cap hit
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Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:54 a.m.
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Cool story. Keep him and his contract. You know what you can say about any hockey player? When they get old they decline, Weber is old and has no speed already. Nylander is 23 and hasn't reached his ceiling. I'll keep the much more valuable asset thank you.


If only there were any examples of defenceman winning Norris trophies over the age of 30...….
Nov. 16, 2019 at 11:57 a.m.
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If only there were any examples of defenceman winning Norris trophies over the age of 30...….


If Weber is so great why would Montreal want to trade him? This is always the funniest part of these threads to me. A fan makes a trade sending some player wherever, and then the fans of that team will argue till they are blue in the face how awesome this player they are giving up is and how poor the player they get in return is. If that's the case, why are you making the trade.

I don't like or want Weber and his contract. If he had 2 years left maybe but 8 or whatever it is is 100% a anchor contract. No thanks.
Nov. 16, 2019 at 12:02 p.m.
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NSH is taking all of it lmao if Weber retires at 39 yo, 24.5M in caphit is going to NSH lmao I will try to find a link for you, Poile take a big risk on that trade


The risk was in signing the contract, more than in trading it. Biggest contract in Nasville hockey history. Kept the team on the map. WIthout that signing, they'd have had neither Weber nor Subban for their run to the Finals a couple years ago, and I don't think they'd have gotten there.

Even with Weber, Nashville had typically operated with an "internal cap," meaning they couldn't afford to spend up to the cap because they didn't have enough fans. Now they have enough fans to spend up to the cap, and they still have a GM who has proven he can win without doing so. 24M in cap hit over how many years? If it's all at once, it might force them to tank a bit. Otherwise, seems like they made the right move in signing Weber, compared to not signing him, not getting to trade him for Subban, not making the finals, and still staying 10M below the cap every year in case nobody in Tennessee bought ice hockey tickets.

ETA: they also just traded Subban for, like, three high 2nd picks (one of whom was already an NHL 3C) and a recent 7th. That and a trip to the Finals should be worth having to tank some random year, if Weber retires before he's bought out. It'll still be frustrating at the time, if it happens, but there's also a chance that Weber wants to play forever and gets traded to a cost-conscious team looking to stay above the floor and add a player/coach for some leadership. Have to think Ottawa will be out of the basement by the time the wheels fall off of Weber, but some team doing what Ottawa's been doing lately could be thrilled to add an Olympic hero with an 8M cap hit and a 2M salary.
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