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Rielly to lw

Created by: Goulet
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2019
Published: Nov. 18, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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He really is more of a forward than a defenseman. And Babcock overplays him because he is a veteran. In fact, Babcock coaches the rest of the team as though they're all versions of Rielly - all offense and no defense.
Since Gardiner got hurt last year and Rielly assumed his minutes, this team has been awful and their record reflects it.

This is only meant to highlight a serious problem on the backend that gets no coverage. Addition by subtraction in this case.
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$72,604,143$0$70,000$8,895,857
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$694,444$694,444 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
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UFA - 1
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:29 a.m.
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Jesus, where is the "dislike" button? That could very well be the worst D core in the NHL that you have listed there.

(Winnipeg steps up and says.... "Hold my Beer!")
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Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Jesus, where is the "dislike" button? That could very well be the worst D core in the NHL that you have listed there.

(Winnipeg steps up and says.... "Hold my Beer!")


That's a dumb comment. Just say it's a bad idea and you'd sound a lot smarter.
Nov. 18, 2019 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Jesus, where is the "dislike" button? That could very well be the worst D core in the NHL that you have listed there.

(Winnipeg steps up and says.... "Hold my Beer!")


Last time I checked Winnipeg is doing better then the leafs.. especially in the dzone so far lol wink
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Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:25 p.m.
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Toronto D core that's a mega rip....Army should donate Bortuzzo for FC just cuz I feel bad.
Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:37 p.m.
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That's a dumb comment. Just say it's a bad idea and you'd sound a lot smarter.


You know what is dumb? Suggesting Morgan Rielly become a left winger. I said that I disliked it and then stated that the D core left behind after this move was horrible. It is. Look at it man. Absolute garbage.
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Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
You know what is dumb? Suggesting Morgan Rielly become a left winger. I said that I disliked it and then stated that the D core left behind after this move was horrible. It is. Look at it man. Absolute garbage.


You're missing the point entirely.
Nov. 18, 2019 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Goulet
You're missing the point entirely.


No, I'm actually not. I understand the point you are trying to make. It just makes no sense IMO. Think about how Babcock coaches this team. He is currently playing a suspected injured Morgan Rielly 25 minutes at night against top competition. Now look at what you have left of that already crappy D-Core after you've made this move. There is no way that Babcock trusts Holl enough, to play him in top pair minutes. NONE!

Holl has played well in a bottom pairing roll and that is where he is effective. Ceci and Rielly against top competition have been terrible. I just think that you are massively overlooking the way this coach deploys people. It doesn't work man. Sorry, but that is the truth of the matter.
Nov. 18, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Trevorchef
No, I'm actually not. I understand the point you are trying to make. It just makes no sense IMO. Think about how Babcock coaches this team. He is currently playing a suspected injured Morgan Rielly 25 minutes at night against top competition. Now look at what you have left of that already crappy D-Core after you've made this move. There is no way that Babcock trusts Holl enough, to play him in top pair minutes. NONE!

Holl has played well in a bottom pairing roll and that is where he is effective. Ceci and Rielly against top competition have been terrible. I just think that you are massively overlooking the way this coach deploys people. It doesn't work man. Sorry, but that is the truth of the matter.


Let me help you out on this one.

If Rielly were a winger, Babcock would have benched him and or given him the 4th line/healthy scratch treatment for all his mistakes. Instead, because he is a defenseman, he is logging the 6th most ice time leaguewide and the team's record and stats reflect how bad he is in his own zone.

Usage is a big problem with this team.
Nov. 19, 2019 at 9:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Goulet
Let me help you out on this one.

If Rielly were a winger, Babcock would have benched him and or given him the 4th line/healthy scratch treatment for all his mistakes. Instead, because he is a defenseman, he is logging the 6th most ice time leaguewide and the team's record and stats reflect how bad he is in his own zone.

Usage is a big problem with this team.


You mean the way he benched Patrick Marleau last year when he was an absolute anchor in the top six? Or the way he continues to roll out Ceci against top competition despite his lack of ability to think quickly against the leagues top players or close a gap properly? Babcock doesn't think that way dude. He has his "favourites" and he plays them regardless because he is a stubborn ass. I admire the creativity of your thinking but it simply would not be a feasible option.
Nov. 19, 2019 at 12:04 p.m.
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You mean the way he benched Patrick Marleau last year when he was an absolute anchor in the top six? Or the way he continues to roll out Ceci against top competition despite his lack of ability to think quickly against the leagues top players or close a gap properly? Babcock doesn't think that way dude. He has his "favourites" and he plays them regardless because he is a stubborn ass. I admire the creativity of your thinking but it simply would not be a feasible option.


It's not meant to be feasible. The design here was simply to draw attention to Rielly's poor play, Babcock's usage of him, and ideally get a constructive conversation going.
Nov. 19, 2019 at 3:19 p.m.
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It's not meant to be feasible. The design here was simply to draw attention to Rielly's poor play, Babcock's usage of him, and ideally get a constructive conversation going.


So why not just bench him then? Why does he have to be moved to LW?

Should John Tavares become a defensman now because he has underperformed as a forward thus far?

The entire concept is ridiculous.

Rielly is clearly playing with some kind of an injury. He has never been good defensively but he certainly has not regressed to this level in the span of a few months. That has not stopped Babcock from overplaying him with a partner that cannot handle playing against top competition. The problem here is the coach. The sooner he is removed from the equation, the sooner we will find out what we truly have here with this group.

Think what you want about these players underachieving. This particular group of players will never win a damn thing with Mike Babcock as the coach. He needs to be fired in order for this team to move forward.
 
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